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4 hours ago, Jaded said:

Any truth to the rumor that it was being taped for the benefit of someone's young daughter, and wasn't meant for public consumption at all? 

The rumor is this puppet show was a second ceremony conducted after the official one and it was specifically for her young children?

Go Navy(this happened about 8 months ago). This looks disturbing but what's the rest of the story?

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Should they really punish her?  As a public affairs troop, she literally led her shop to produce the most widely shared and talked about social media engagement campaign in PA history.

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12 hours ago, waveshaper said:

The rumor is this puppet show was a second ceremony conducted after the official one and it was specifically for her young children?

Go Navy(this happened about 8 months ago). This looks disturbing but what's the rest of the story?

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I wonder if that meets BahsiChuni's standard for a respectful reenlistment ceremony...?

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Wrote out BashiChuni's whole username now that I'm at a computer
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TA i disagree with you on this one.
that video was complete and utter bull shit...
both the O-6 and SNCO should know better... it made my blood boil. if someone sees me drinking beer in uniform or not wearing my cover so be it...i brought "shame" on myself and expect to deal with the consequences...but god damn did those two bring shame and scorn on the entire enterprise and shit all over a oath that thousands have given their lives upholding.
they mocked the entire military IMO and deserved to be absolutely crushed.
 
 

Sanctimonious bull. It’s a shame how quick some members of the military pass judgement on others when they know no more “facts” than what they glean from a video posted on social fvcking media.

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Wasn’t just a social media video. It made USA Today. 

If I do something stupid that goes viral and makes a USA Today/CNN/FoxNews article id expect a hammer to drop. 

I don’t care to decide what’s appropriate or not.

anyway that’s my opinion and I respect yours and do see where you’re coming from. 

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5 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

Wasn’t just a social media video. It made USA Today. 

If I do something stupid that goes viral and makes a USA Today/CNN/FoxNews article id expect a hammer to drop. 

I don’t care to decide what’s appropriate or not.

anyway that’s my opinion and I respect yours and do see where you’re coming from. 

It made the media because it was in social media first, this wouldn’t of made the local news 20 years ago. There are bigger things to worry about. If you’re worried about quibbing like this, then I hope you’re correcting every Enlisted person who doesn’t salute and every Officer who goes out of their way to dodge one.

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On 4/22/2018 at 4:18 PM, BashiChuni said:

Wasn’t just a social media video. It made USA Today. 

If I do something stupid that goes viral and makes a USA Today/CNN/FoxNews article id expect a hammer to drop.

I don’t care to decide what’s appropriate or not.

anyway that’s my opinion and I respect yours and do see where you’re coming from. 

 It's idiotic, over-the-top thinking like this that leads to someone getting fired for making a video for their kids.  The audience it reaches should have ZERO bearing on the punishment. 

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I was appalled at first as well, and this MSgt definitely showed lack of judgement for posting this on her FB page. If she wanted her kids to see it, it didn’t need to be up on social media. However, I think effectively terminating her service and not allowing her to re-enlist and serve to retirement is not the right decision. Was everyone at Dover involved in the tasteless picture taken with the transfer case fired from the service? She made a mistake and should be punished, but senior leaders have raped people and received less. She and her kids should not suffer because of one stupid mistake.

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6 hours ago, BADFNZ said:

The audience it reaches should have ZERO bearing on the punishment. 

Like a private, homemade porn video, that somehow ends up on the internet?  With a male officer and two enlisted gals? 

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5 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Like a private, homemade porn video, that somehow ends up on the internet?  With a male officer and two enlisted gals? 

I would need to see said video before making any further judgement.

But if this was an honest question, yes.  As a CC, if I found out one of my O's made a sex tape with a couple of E's, my punishment of that individual would be the same whether I was the only one to see the video or if it was posted on the Google home page.  I'm not saying leaders think this way today, but like I said, the audience should have no bearing on the punishment.

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4 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:
10 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:
Like a private, homemade porn video, that somehow ends up on the internet?  With a male officer and two enlisted gals? 

In this scenario, the fraternization, not the publicity of the video would be the punishable offense.

It's the Guard.  From what I've seen, nothing in the Guard is considered "fraternization".  

 

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3 minutes ago, HuggyU2 said:

It's the Guard.  From what I've seen, nothing in the Guard is considered "fraternization".  

 

Depends on what the boss things.  The Washington ANG (-135) Wing King was forced to retire last year, losing his promotion to Brig Gen, for having an affair with the OG Superintendent.

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