di1630 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Shout out to the "leaders" who said, "Staff's all in for this exercise." Then wouldn't clarify what that meant until 1500 on Friday. That clarification - 12's for 10 days straight, sorry-not sorry about your weekend plans.Can you articulate for those of us outside the loop on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 16 hours ago, 17D_guy said: Shout out to the "leaders" who said, "Staff's all in for this exercise." Then wouldn't clarify what that meant until 1500 on Friday. That clarification - 12's for 10 days straight, sorry-not sorry about your weekend plans. You're not at Dyess, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 hours ago, pawnman said: You're not at Dyess, are you? Negative. 15 hours ago, di1630 said: Can you articulate for those of us outside the loop on this one? We were told we're participating in an exercise. Last time we were all in, 12 hour coverage, split amongst the minions. Found out Friday it's 12's for all 10 days straight including weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abmwaldo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 57 minutes ago, 17D_guy said: Found out Friday it's 12's for all 10 days straight including weekends. Do you have the manning to work a Panama schedule (break your flight/SQ into 2 "crews" each with a day shift and night shift)? Crew A does 2 days on 2 days off, 3 days on 3 days off. Crew B does 2 days off 2 days on, 3 days off, 3 days on. Just make sure you have some sort of mechanism for handoff between shifts/crews (logs, slides, etc...) The squadron I'm in now does that in perpetuity and while you don't get every weekend off you do get two 3 days weekends every month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 We were told we're participating in an exercise. Last time we were all in, 12 hour coverage, split amongst the minions. Found out Friday it's 12's for all 10 days straight including weekends.What’s your role in the exercise? If you can help/train, fine, if not, it’s BS.My sq was TDY at a base during a ORE...base told us not to interfere, DO said “we’ll participate in full chem gear etc” so that he could look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFNZ Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 8 hours ago, di1630 said: What’s your role in the exercise? If you can help/train, fine, if not, it’s BS. My sq was TDY at a base during a ORE...base told us not to interfere, DO said “we’ll participate in full chem gear etc” so that he could look good. You don't happen to be a Dyess guy do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream big Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 11 hours ago, BADFNZ said: You don't happen to be a Dyess guy do you? Second time someone has asked if said dude is from Dyess, seeing a pattern here.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 1/27/2018 at 8:32 PM, abmwaldo said: Do you have the manning to work a Panama schedule (break your flight/SQ into 2 "crews" each with a day shift and night shift)? Crew A does 2 days on 2 days off, 3 days on 3 days off. Crew B does 2 days off 2 days on, 3 days off, 3 days on. Just make sure you have some sort of mechanism for handoff between shifts/crews (logs, slides, etc...) The squadron I'm in now does that in perpetuity and while you don't get every weekend off you do get two 3 days weekends every month... We do not. We're terrifyingly under-manned for what we're supposed to be doing. For example, in the exact same section in other orgs there's 4+ people working together on tasks. We've got 1 person, same amount of tasks and coord. It'll be interesting to see this coming week because I'm not doing anything real-world since I'm not staying longer than 12hrs. 19 hours ago, di1630 said: What’s your role in the exercise? If you can help/train, fine, if not, it’s BS. My sq was TDY at a base during a ORE...base told us not to interfere, DO said “we’ll participate in full chem gear etc” so that he could look good. It's not the fuck-fuck exercise games. It's the fuck-fuck passive-aggressive for 2 weeks so we make family plans while getting vaguely told we're "team players." Exercises aren't surprises, just our level of effort. "So, am I working this coming weekend?" Reply, "We're team players." Got to cut out my dudes early today since they were doing nothing related to it...just being "team players." On a positive note I found out I could put in for retirement this December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 8 hours ago, dream big said: Second time someone has asked if said dude is from Dyess, seeing a pattern here.. Our tenant AMC wing is working as hard as they can to rope the rest of the base into their self-led ORE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetfreezer Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Maybe they can do an ORE on how to be on the same tower frequency as the rest of the base first 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbush Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 How much do these Dyess shenanigans have to do with this guy being in charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 2 hours ago, mcbush said: How much do these Dyess shenanigans have to do with this guy being in charge? Shitty leadership from the C-17 community? Weird. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Cue the “yes but he’s so smart” crowd in 3. 2, 1...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck17 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Azimuth said: Weird. Dewey is a known quantity... Chuck Edited January 30, 2018 by Chuck17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Chuck17 said: Dewey is a known quantity... Perhaps in the C-17 community. Care to share with the rest of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragspider Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 7 hours ago, FourFans130 said: Perhaps in the C-17 community. Care to share with the rest of us? He might be. But the Herk community has had a rash of C-17 dudes that come over and start messing things up. Now the big question is to how can we stop this silly trend in AMC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream big Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 19 hours ago, mcbush said: How much do these Dyess shenanigans have to do with this guy being in charge? 99.69%..the guy is a total D bag. Last year there were a handful of 0-4s who wanted to stay in because morale was so good at Dyess. Now, they all talk about bailing for the airlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 hour ago, dream big said: morale was so good at Dyess Wait, wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, cragspider said: He might be. But the Herk community has had a rash of C-17 dudes that come over and start messing things up. Now the big question is to how can we stop this silly trend in AMC? Stop the PHOENIX programs. The CAF doesn’t do it, why would the MAF do it? Also keep people in their MDS’s. However AMC, and really the entire MAF, has a boner over making C-17 guys in charge of everything, however they have limited command billets. Which is why you see shitty people like Rat taking over a KC-135 Squadron and C-130 Wing for command as a career strart airlift guy. A running joke at Altus when I was there was if you’re the #1 tanker guy on base, you were really #15 on the base due to all the C-17 guys. Edited January 31, 2018 by Azimuth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragspider Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Azimuth said: Stop the PHOENIX programs. The CAF doesn’t do it, why would the MAF do it? Also keep people in their MDS’s. However AMC, and really the entire MAF, has a boner over making C-17 guys in charge of everything, however they have limited command billets. Which is why you see shitty people like Rat taking over a KC-135 Squadron and C-130 Wing for command as a career start airlift guy. A running joke at Altus when I was there was if you’re the #1 tanker guy on base, you were really #15 on the base due to all the C-17 guys. You are correct. But if we stop the Phoenix programs how will AMC know who the shinny penny’s are? Well I’m sorry if you have limited command billets. Look at the RPA enterprise. They have very limited billets. But they seem to have a problem with messing up the communities that they show up at. Now I get doing the Phoenix program as a young guy but bring them back to where they started. I’ve seen to many guys come into places and have a problem with flying tac vs just flying strat missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Azimuth said: Stop the PHOENIX programs. The CAF doesn’t do it, why would the MAF do it? Also keep people in their MDS’s. Gscomm is trying similarly as the MAF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungnDumb Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 But without people who have been in multiple airframes, 6-9 years on staff, SOS DG, and ACSC in residence how can we have effective leaders and commanders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abmwaldo Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 How did the "Warrior Monk" let this slip past? DOD INSTRUCTION 1020.03: HARASSMENT PREVENTION AND RESPONSE IN THE ARMED FORCES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhog Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, abmwaldo said: How did the "Warrior Monk" let this slip past? DOD INSTRUCTION 1020.03: HARASSMENT PREVENTION AND RESPONSE IN THE ARMED FORCES By using the term "Warrior Monk" ironically, I think it can be concluded that your post constitutes berating with the intent of belittling or humiliating through the use of an electronic device and social media. An investigation shall commence within 5 days. Expect prevention and response reeducation for your entire unit following shortly thereafter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juacey Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Is any other wing in AETC going for "full mission ready status"? Instead of reacting to increasing tensions with N Korea by focusing on making students that much better, we all have to do CBRNE, expeditionary active shooter training, etc. This is despite the AETC push within the past 12 months to protect all FTU aircrew from deployments. I'm pretty sure if there's a full blown war a) the production pipeline will still need to go on, and b) all that stuff would be waived anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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