HU&W Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 President Obama announces drawdown plans. Currently 32,000. 9800 by end of this year. Half that by end of 2015. Normal embassy in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 So now we're not done at the close of 2014? WTF mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbush Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 The war is "formally ending" later this year. We're just leaving some folks behind to take care of "two narrow missions: to continue supporting Afghan forces... and continuing to support counter terrorism operations against the remnants of al Qaeda." Don't worry though, that totally doesn't count as a war. I hope someone remembers to tell the bad guys to go home soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Afghanistan exit strategy? What we need to do is dupe one of our adversaries, like China or Iran, into believing thatoccupying Afghanistan is in their national interest. As a matter of fact, it may would be worth it for the US to pony up some front money to get them started down the path of occupation. Then we can just hand them the keys tothe Kingdom of Quagmires and we all (including diplomatic personnel) can depart that lovely place posthaste. Lets justhope there is at least one more country/empire remaining on planet earth that is foolish enough to take the bait.The most recent two US Ambassador killed by terrorist;1. Benghazi Libya, 11 Sept 2012; The US Ambassador to Libya was killed in a terrorist attack.2. Kabul Afghanistan, 14 Feb 1979; The US Ambassador to Afghanistan was killed in a terrorist attack. In typical Afghan fashion, the 1979 attack that killed the US Ambassador was an insider attack and the terrorist were wearing Afghanpolice uniforms. Amazing how times have changed, welcome to reality and the perpetual Afghan time warp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 China is probably fine with the US providing relative security for their AFG mining ventures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
338skybolt Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 So now we're not done at the close of 2014? WTF mate? Troops completely out in 2016; Obama completely out in 2016. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkbum Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Troops completely out in 2016; Obama completely out in 2016. Coincidence? Not at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 We should have punched out of that hole back in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 ... and we all (including diplomatic personnel) can depart that lovely place posthaste. IMHO having our diplomats and the Agency completely pull out of AFG in 1992 was a huge mistake and significantly contributed to our lack of knowledge about the extent to which the Taliban government was harboring AQ and allowing them to actively plan attacks on the homeland. Not sure there was another viable option w/ the Taliban in control, but not having anyone on the ground and having to trust the Pakistanis and occasional contact with the Northern Alliance certainly didn't help with 2001 rolled around and suddenly we wanted back in with some urgency. We should only totally pull out our diplomatic and intelligence collection apparatus under the most dire of circumstances; the state department and Agency know what the risks are and willingly accept them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 We should only totally pull out our diplomatic and intelligence collection apparatus under the most dire of circumstances; the state department and Agency know what the risks are and willingly accept them.I can agree with this but folks need to understand that staying will come at a high cost and should not be surprisedwhen shit goes down hill fast. The potential is that we will see many Benghazi type/size attacks. We could also findourselves in a situation similar to our last days in Vietnam but this time I would expect it to be much worse.Source = From the State Department;This is just a wee glimpse at the type of activities we should expect in Afghanistan ,as a minimum, based on the coursethe current administrations is steering.SIGNIFICANT ATTACKS AGAINST U.S. DIPLOMATIC FACILITIES AND PERSONNEL in IRAQ: Attacks include direct fire, indirect fire,suicide attacks/bombings, IEDs, etc. This sound way to familiar and I thought we won that war?JANUARY 1 TO DECEMBER 31, 2012– IRAQ: Unknown individuals targeted U.S. diplomatic facilities/personnel with attacks on41 separate occasions; additional attacks were launched against other U.S. interests elsewhere in Iraq.JANUARY 1 TO DECEMBER 31, 2011 – IRAQ: Unknown individuals targeted U.S. diplomatic facilities/personnel with attacks on 35 separate occasions; additional attacks were launched against other U.S. interests elsewhere in Iraq.JANUARY 1 TO DECEMBER 31, 2010 – IRAQ: Unknown individuals targeted U.S. diplomatic facilities/personnel with attacks on 50 separate occasions; additional attacks were launched against other U.S. interests elsewhere in Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Apparently, my 365 as an air advisor is still a go. Not a combat role. So much fun having both military colleagues and family ask "But I thought we were getting out of there, so you won't have to go, right?" *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 And wave already alluded to it, but I'm willing to bet the Taliban isn't going to get the memo that combat operations are over. Things are gonna get real ugly when Americans continue getting killed after "the war's over." Nah. It will be a blurb on the CNN ticker when the obvious main news story is Miley Cirus's cooter hanging out at one venue or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickhistory Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Nah. It will be a blurb on the CNN ticker when the obvious main news story is Miley Cirus's cooter hanging out at one venue or another. Well, only one of those things will have more than 9,800 men and women run through it then... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KState_Poke22 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Nah. It will be a blurb on the CNN ticker when the obvious main news story is Miley Cirus's cooter hanging out at one venue or another. That checks, the only time Americans seem to care about Afghanistan is when politicians need it to make some political point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 All comments about the release of SGT Bowe Bergdahl have been moved here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Friendly Fire Kills Five American Service Members in Afghanistan?http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/10/world/asia/afghanistan-isaf-deaths/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck17 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) This is terrible stuff. Now reported as a BOne strike on Foxnews - still searching for that in print from a reputable source... Chuck Edited June 10, 2014 by Chuck17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 ...standing by for the opinion posts about how "this wouldn't have happened if it were an A-10..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveshaper Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 NBC News Pentagon Correspondent, Jim Miklaszewski, said it was a B-1 Stealth Bomber (really he said that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 ...standing by for the opinion posts about how "this wouldn't have happened if it were an A-10..." What do you mean? The A-10 never had a flight engineer to begin with. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I'll just leave this here:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/11/exclusive-white-house-issues-ultimatum-to-afghanistan-to-resolve-presidential-crisis-or-obama-will-institute-massive-immediate-withdrawal-from-country/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopyeast Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Exclusive: White House Issues Ultimatum to Afghanistan to Resolve Presidential Crisis or Obama Will Institute ‘Massive Immediate Withdrawal’ From Country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I'll just leave this here:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/11/exclusive-white-house-issues-ultimatum-to-afghanistan-to-resolve-presidential-crisis-or-obama-will-institute-massive-immediate-withdrawal-from-country/ In other news all C-17/C-5 aircrew's leave for the next 6 months has been cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Maybe jumping the gun for now, hopefully they can continue to work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Army 2-Star killed by Afgan Solidier. All I can say it WTF...sadly, I'm not shocked. RIP sir. http://nytimes.com/2014/08/06/world/asia/afghanistan-attack.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LedeSum&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1&referrer= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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