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Here;s what I tracked down via the Bro Network...

Temporary Early Retirement Authority - Retirement Fact Sheet
Applicable to: Active Duty
Note: This data applies to Regular Officers serving on active duty. The FSS/MPS action office for this memorandum is Career Development. Please provide a copy of this article to Commanders, First Sergeants, Career Assistance Advisors, Military Personnel Section Career Development elements, Airman & Family Readiness Centers, Education Centers, and the MilTA Central Office
Mandatory Separation Date
Officers twice non-selected for promotion by the CY15A Lieutenant Colonel (LAF/LAF-J) P0515A and Major (LAF-J) P0415A Central selection Boards, who are not offered continuation, will have a mandatory separation date (MSD) established as 30 November 2015. To request retirement under TERA, officers must request a retirement date of no later than 1 December 2015.

Application Procedures
No later than 31 August 2015, you must submit an application to retire. To apply for retirement, you must access the virtual MPF using the following steps:

Verify your duty email address and phone number, click "I have verified my email and phone" click "Self-Service Actions", click "Retirements", click "Request Retirement", click "Check Retirement Eligibility," enter a date no later than 1 December 2015, select the retirement program "Temporary Early Retirement Authority", and submit. Refer to the Retirements PSD Guide.
If you have an ADSC that will not be completed as of your requested retirement date, the AF will not require you to provide a waiver request provided you request retirement for the date following your MSD. The AF will not require a waiver for an application submitted less than 120 days prior to the requested retirement date; however, if you request to retire earlier than the mandatory retirement date, you should be aware that normal processing time is 4-6 weeks, and allow sufficient time for approval when selecting your desired departure date.
Complete retirement applications (to include your commander's coordination) must be submitted using the on-line web-based application located on vMPF no later than 31 August 2015. After your eligibility request is submitted, you must wait for the eligibility response. After receiving response, you will go back into vMPF, complete the pre-application checklist and then on the next page, the retirement application. On the retirement application in the justification/remarks block add the statement "TERA - Promotion Non-Select."
You must take into consideration terminal leave and permissive TDY (PTDY), if authorized, to ensure your retirement effective date is no later than 1 December 2015. You must take all authorized PTDY/Terminal Leave prior to your effective retirement date. Extension to an approved retirement date IS NOT granted in order to accommodate terminal leave or PTDY.
Assignments
The following Permanent Change of Station (PCS) procedures apply:

Officers enroute to an event, such as PCS, education or training, will be handled in accordance with AFI 36-2110, Assignments, paragraph 2.18.3.
If you are projected for a CONUS to CONUS PCS, AFPC will cancel your assignment and you will remain in place until authorized to depart using your retirement orders.
If you are currently assigned overseas, AFPC will adjust your DEROS to match your MSD. If approved by your commander, you may depart upon receipt of your retirement orders, completion of your out-processing requirements, and upon your PTDY/Terminal Leave start date. NOTE: You may not depart the overseas area before receipt of your Retirement Orders. Additionally, if you are pending assignment, that assignment will be canceled.
If you are assigned to a location that does not have facilities for your outprocessing, you may request to travel to a Separation Processing Base in the United States. Please contact the Total Force Service Center at DSN 665-0102 or commercial 1-800-525-0102, to submit this request.
Deployments (to include 365-Day Extended TDYs)
Currently deployed Officers with a mandatory separation date of 30 November 2015 will be returned to home station NLT 1 October 2015 for retirement processing. Officers with a mandatory separation date of 30 November 2015 will not be tasked for deployment after notification of the Central Selection Board results.

Medical Hold
Officers may be retained beyond the MSD when placed on medical hold by the AFPC Medical Standards Branch, AFPC/DPANM. If you are undergoing review by the Disability Evaluation System and consideration is not completed 60 days prior to your MSD, the Medical Treatment Facility (MTF) must initiate medical hold action through AFPC/DPANM. AFPC/DPANM will notify AFPC/DPSOR to suspend your retirement to allow you to undergo medical evaluation processing. If you are approved for separation/retirement under AFI 36-3212, Physical Evaluation for Retention, Retirement, and Separation, your date of separation will be established in accordance with that governing directive. If you are subsequently returned to duty, the separation date will be adjusted to the last day of the month in which you are returned to duty, or 30 November 2015, whichever is later. You will then be projected to retire the first day of the month following the adjusted separation date or 1 December 2015, whichever is later.

Administrative Hold
Officers remain subject to military and civilian investigation, disciplinary action or pending involuntary discharge. If you are placed under investigation or civil charges, or the commander initiates disciplinary action, the commander must notify AFPC/DPSOR immediately. If you are placed on administrative hold for court-martial action, AFPC/DPSOR will suspend the retirement processing and you may be retained beyond the MSD. If a decision is subsequently made to not pursue court-martial action, the separation date will be adjusted to the last day of the month following termination of the action or 30 November 2015, whichever is later. You will then be projected to retire the first day of the month following the adjusted date of separation or 1 December 2015/, whichever is later.

Transition Benefits and Services
You will receive the same retirement transition benefits and entitlements provided for all retiring members. You can find information on your basic entitlements in the Entitlements Counseling link in the Retirements application in vMPF. All retiring personnel must participate in the mandatory Transition Assistance Program (TAP) which includes preseparation counseling, the TAP GPS Workshop, VA Benefits Briefing and a Capstone to verify Career Readiness Standards (CRS). Contact your local Airman & Family Readiness Center immediately to get started.

Transfer of Education Benefits
Officers who are approved for Transfer of Education Benefits (TEB) prior to notification of promotion non-selection and are retired under the Temporary Early Retirement Authority (TERA) OR who were previously approved for TEB and have fulfilled the associated Obligation End Date/ADSC prior to the established DOS under TERA will retain their TEB benefits. Officers who apply for non- TERA separation programs without completing their Post-9/11 GI Bill ADSC forfeit the transferred benefit, and any benefits that dependents have used will be treated as an overpayment subject to recoupment by the Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA) under the provisions of AFI 36-2649, Attachment 13, A13.18.8.5. Additionally, officers who apply for TEB AFTER receiving notification of promotion non-selection will be ineligible as they cannot meet the associated service obligation outlined in AFI 36-2649, Attachment 13, A13.18.1.2. Officers who were previously approved for TEB and otherwise would fail to fulfill the associated Obligation End Date/ADSC may consider continued service in the Guard or Reserve through the PALACE CHASE program.. For questions on TEB, contact the DVA at 1-888-GIBILL1 (1-888-442-4551). For questions on PALACE CHASE, please contact the Total Force Service Center at DSN 665-0102.

TERA Retirement Impact on Officers Who Elected the Career Status Bonus (CSB)
While CSB does not generate an Active Duty Service Commitment (ADSC), officers who accepted CSB did agree to serve to 20 years of active service in exchange for the bonus payment. As part of the FY14/15 Force Management program, the Secretary of the Air Force is allowing officers to apply for retirement under the TERA. If approved for early retirement, recoupment is waived IAW DoD FMR 7000.14-R, Volume 7A, Chapter 66, paragraph 660302-A3; however, officers who accepted CSB will have their retired pay adjusted by the reduction established by law. You should contact the Defense Finance and Accounting Service (DFAS) for counseling before submitting their applications.

Retirement Pay Under TERA
The retired pay calculator on the myPers website doesn't work for TERA retirements; however, the table below provides an estimate of the multiplier used by DFAS. All retired pay estimates are made prior to taxes. Years of service are calculated from your 10 USC 1405 Date, which can be found in the virtual MPF, Self-Service Actions, Personal Data, Record Review/Update, Service, 1405 Service Date. For more information, contact DFAS at 1-800-321-1080.

Multiplier for Officers who DID NOT take the Career Status Bonus (CSB)

Years of Service
Retirement (% of base pay)

19.5 48.506%
19 47.025%
18.5 45.556%
18 44.100%
17.5 42.656%
17 41.225%
16.5 39.806%
16 38.400%
15.5 37.006%
15 35.625%

Multiplier for Officers who DID take the Career Status Bonus (CSB)

Years of Service
Retirement (% of base pay)

19.5 38.059%
19 36.135%
18.5 34.229%
18 32.340%
17.5 30.469%
17 28.615%
16.5 26.779%
16 24.960%
15.5 23.159%
15 21.375%

Point of Contact
Questions should be addressed to AFPC Retirements & Separations Branch

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Pilot I work with didn't make it. Sounds like he's gonna get the boot cause he's not eligible for TERA.

Any other word on whether this was actually the case? As I mentioned before, I heard of a case last year where a guy wasn't eligible for TERA, but they have to be pretty unique cases.

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My boss told me a guy he worked with at his last assignment is getting the boot.

Any word on who is getting continuation? I have heard everything from only 11S... no 12S... to it's a random vote.. the F.

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It's so great we are passing over so many fighter dudes. I mean all I ever hear anymore is how overmanned we are in 11Fs... /sarcasm off. Who is running this s#itshow?

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It's so great we are passing over so many fighter dudes. I mean all I ever hear anymore is how overmanned we are in 11Fs... /sarcasm off. Who is running this s#itshow?

It's because we eat our own and don't take care of you unless you're one of the "chosen" ones.

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It's because we eat our own and don't take care of you unless you're one of the "chosen" ones.

The thing is.. I don't mind staying a O4 and doing my job for the next however many years. The problem is that the AF doesn't like to prepare people. I have more statistics than I care on why I didn't get promoted.. but the bottom line is that I want to know my chances at continuation. Were 80% 12S continued? 0%? Is continuation decided by the board members having a foamy sword LARPing battle after having a number of drinks? I have no idea.. I don't want to count on continuation if ZERO navigators or 12S folks were not continued.. How is this information not available?

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I know an 11H that was offered continuation.

Seems like pilots (not sure how many) were offered continuation. No 12S were offered continuation this year. So TERA is authorized until 2018, and it seems this year anyone eligible for TERA was offered it. What are the chances it is still offered next year and the AF doesn't pull another rug?

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Seems like pilots (not sure how many) were offered continuation. No 12S were offered continuation this year. So TERA is authorized until 2018, and it seems this year anyone eligible for TERA was offered it. What are the chances it is still offered next year and the AF doesn't pull another rug?

I can't really see them not offering TERA while it's still authorized after the shit-show of 2011.

11F here. Offered continuation, politely declined. I'm out!

I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but can you take TERA?

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11B offered continuation//decling & walking away 30 Nov with nothing.

My Wing/CC showed me the SECAF instructions to the continuation board after I inquired in June about why I was the only B-1 guy given an ultimatum (stay in/accept continuation OR Else... leave with nothing), while all my 2x passed over B-1 brethren had won the lottery with non-continuation/TERA.

AFSCs on the SECAF's critical skills list were offered continuation (the stay or leave with nothing this year). Those not on the list are automatically in the non-continuation bucket, with TERA if eligible. There was one small caveat at the end of one paragraph saying the board can continue whoever they want based on the "best interest" of the AF. He told me that must be how I was offered continuation as a "non critical' skill. Seems sketchy... you'd think "best interest" would be to coerce ALL pilots to stay in via this shitty continuation deal instead of retiring them.

Talking with continuation folks at AFPC... ONLY 135 officers were offered continuation this year. I know of at least 5 (all pilots, btw) that are all declining it, despite leaving with nothing. What really pissed me off, is that I'm not even a critical skill, yet somehow, the AF thinks they're offering me this amazing deal by trying to financially coerce me to stay in, TBNT!

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11B offered continuation//decling & walking away 30 Nov with nothing.

My Wing/CC showed me the SECAF instructions to the continuation board after I inquired in June about why I was the only B-1 guy given an ultimatum (stay in/accept continuation OR Else... leave with nothing), while all my 2x passed over B-1 brethren had won the lottery with non-continuation/TERA.

AFSCs on the SECAF's critical skills list were offered continuation (the stay or leave with nothing this year). Those not on the list are automatically in the non-continuation bucket, with TERA if eligible. There was one small caveat at the end of one paragraph saying the board can continue whoever they want based on the "best interest" of the AF. He told me that must be how I was offered continuation as a "non critical' skill. Seems sketchy... you'd think "best interest" would be to coerce ALL pilots to stay in via this shitty continuation deal instead of retiring them.

Talking with continuation folks at AFPC... ONLY 135 officers were offered continuation this year. I know of at least 5 (all pilots, btw) that are all declining it, despite leaving with nothing. What really pissed me off, is that I'm not even a critical skill, yet somehow, the AF thinks they're offering me this amazing deal by trying to financially coerce me to stay in, TBNT!

Same here, 11F, offered continuation...declined. I'm out in a few more weeks!

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Leave and never look back. Offering continuation is a win-win for the AF. They either get you to stay or they get your separation pay. It's fucking extortion.

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When A1 says "we do not foresee using TERA for any boards currently scheduled", are they talking in the same context of your situation where you ARE offered continuation but turn it down and are asking for TERA? Or do they mean no TERA for this year to people who just don't get continued and are forced to get out?  If it's the later, that sounds a lot like the 2011 debacle.  It's hard to tell which you are talking about because we can't see your questions and what this guy was referring to with "softening the impact".

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When A1 says "we do not foresee using TERA for any boards currently scheduled", are they talking in the same context of your situation where you ARE offered continuation but turn it down and are asking for TERA? Or do they mean no TERA for this year to people who just don't get continued and are forced to get out?  If it's the later, that sounds a lot like the 2011 debacle.  It's hard to tell which you are talking about because we can't see your questions and what this guy was referring to with "softening the impact".

I read it as no TERA period.  I anticipate them returning to previous guidance of offering continuation to anyone with less than 6-yrs to retirement and/or a critical skill.  -- all due to FY14 cutting too deep, and retention sucking so bad.

I encourage anyone interested to keep an eye on DoDI 1320.08

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I read it as no TERA period.  I anticipate them returning to previous guidance of offering continuation to anyone with less than 6-yrs to retirement and/or a critical skill.  -- all due to FY14 cutting too deep, and retention sucking so bad.

I encourage anyone interested to keep an eye on DoDI 1320.08

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I talked with someone at AFPC and they anticipate this as well.  TERA will no longer be an option and folks get continuation just as prior to 2011.  According to AFPC the last board in Sep (not sure what it was, non LAF O4?) offered continuation to everyone passed over.  When I asked about the chances of non-continuation and then not getting TERA they said they is 0% chance of that happening..  other than negative discriminators on their record.

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I read all of that very differently. It sounds like if you're closer to the 16 year point you're more likely to get continued, but if you're closer to 15 you have a chance at TERA unless you're on one of the critical lists. And there's no chance of involuntary separation.

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