BonedRiver Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I know of 2 x 11B3's fired & retired, 1 x 11B3 continued & 1 x 12B fired & retired. WTF? no clue why some of same AFSC/critical skill were continued/not. Me, I'm the continued guy... but f'g want out. It's like I'm being blackmailed to stay in w/o being able to decline for TERA this year. FML> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Twice passed-over 11F here. Offered continuation...I declined. Even at 15 years time in service the airline hiring is too good to pass up. Besides that, I'm more than ready to jump off this sinking ship. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonedRiver Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Twice passed-over 11F here. Offered continuation...I declined. Even at 15 years time in service the airline hiring is too good to pass up. Besides that, I'm more than ready to jump off this sinking ship. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Are you looking to go reserves & airlines? I'm curious if dudes are having a decent time working the afi 36-2005 waiver due to non-promotion- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap-10 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 We have hired a handful of dudes that needed twice passed over waivers...100% success so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Are you looking to go reserves & airlines? I'm curious if dudes are having a decent time working the afi 36-2005 waiver due to non-promotion- Nope, I'm not currently pursuing anything AF related. Strictly going to airlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techsan Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Nope, I'm not currently pursuing anything AF related. Strictly going to airlines. You've been in 15 years, and aren't going to put in another 5 yrs part-time to get a retirement later in life? You must REALLY hate the AF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossHarris Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Getting that last 5 years as a tr can take 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen69 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Getting that last 5 years as a tr can take 20 Yes but you can still get a reserve retirement at age 60 with 20 "good years". 15 years active duty are 15 good years and all he would have to do is his TR for 5 more years (easy to get a good year as a flyer). Its not the active duty retirement but its better than 0 dollars at age 60. On the conservative side he would probably get 2 years worth of points in 5 years so that would get him a check every month for 17/20's of his base pay as soon as he hit 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Happiness is worth more than $$. I'll be fine. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learjetter Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Happiness is worth more than $$. I'll be fine. Which is why the AF should go with six-year post UPT ADSCs and abolish the bonus. /derail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetter Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Happiness is worth more than $$. I'll be fine. Amen to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt4fans Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 My post apparently never made it. 11M non continuation and TERA. I know of another 11M exact same thing, and a 12M as well. My 11T buddy (same ROTC class) got continued, but he hits 17 years be Dec of this year. Last one I know of is a Mission Support O-4 who graduated with me. She made the list and had to be APZ. I'm done in 6 months, and have to figure out retirment from Germany...wish me luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 My 11T buddy (same ROTC class) got continued, but he hits 17 years be Dec of this year. Is an 11T a tanker pilot? Don't they also have the core AFSC of an 11M? Sorry to hear about the non continuation. Good luck in your retirement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techsan Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Is an 11T a tanker pilot? Don't they also have the core AFSC of an 11M? Sorry to hear about the non continuation. Good luck in your retirement!Tanker dudes are 11M. Maybe he's talking about an FTU guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Tanker dudes are 11M. Maybe he's talking about an FTU guy? Possibly, though as I understand it, just like with the last RIF, it all comes down to your core AFSC, and there isn't one for school house IP's (unless it applies to FAIPs, but then again, that would be irrelevant for the O-5 board discussion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Happiness is worth more than $$. I'll be fine. Hopefully the airlines work out for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Tanker dudes are 11M. Maybe he's talking about an FTU guy? Aren't 11T's UPT IP's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10percenttruth Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Aren't 11T's UPT IP's? UPT IPs are T11K-something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt4fans Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 UPT IPs are T11K-something My mistake..he's coming out of T-1's going back to 135's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1234 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Happiness is worth more than $$. I'll be fine. I hope you'll continue to stick around these parts and offer up any insights or advice about your transition to the promised land. Wish you all the best, man. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) I hope you'll continue to stick around these parts and offer up any insights or advice about your transition to the promised land. Wish you all the best, man. Yes, the promised land where the grass is greener! http://youtu.be/DXmWQG0j8Gc A raise paid for with our profit sharing is not a raise! Edited June 16, 2015 by Butters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrooster99 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Yes, the promised land where the grass is greener! http://youtu.be/DXmWQG0j8Gc No, no, stick around and mother Air Force will take real good care of you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetter Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 The grass is greener...even if there is a turd here or there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonedRiver Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) Words via AFPC emails & my WIng King who was on the board... There were 135 officers offered continuation this year. It was allegedly based solely upon TAFMS-D for which there were specific "windows" determining what folks were eligible for (Seperation/Retirement/TERA/continuation). The only outlier as he remembered it was RPAs... with all being offered continuation (negative quality indicators & all). Apparently there are 7 officers separated w/o TERA. AFPC is working towards SECAF approval of TERA for them (don't know any more specifics). My local MPS chief discussed how the AF is making subtle changes to promotions, etc. resulting in even more disingenuous/in the dark/behind closed doors sorts of "force management" via promotions/timing. (His most significant example is shifting O-4 promotions left so 1 APZ (for O-5) happens prior to 15-yrs IOT start avoiding TERA hand-outs). Don't expect leadership, AFPC, etc. to explain any rationale for decisions... they'll keep quoting AFIs & Fact Sheets to avoid acknowledging their back-handed & coersive actions to pretend that all is well in personnel management land. I'm starting to walk away... 30 Nov keeps looking better & better- Edited June 17, 2015 by BonedRiver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrizzell Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Words via AFPC emails & my WIng King who was on the board... There were 135 officers offered continuation this year. It was allegedly based solely upon TAFMS-D for which there were specific "windows" determining what folks were eligible for (Seperation/Retirement/TERA/continuation). The only outlier as he remembered it was RPAs... with all being offered continuation (negative quality indicators & all). Apparently there are 7 officers separated w/o TERA. AFPC is working towards SECAF approval of TERA for them (don't know any more specifics). My local MPS chief discussed how the AF is making subtle changes to promotions, etc. resulting in even more disingenuous/in the dark/behind closed doors sorts of "force management" via promotions/timing. (His most significant example is shifting O-4 promotions left so 1 APZ (for O-5) happens prior to 15-yrs IOT start avoiding TERA hand-outs). Don't expect leadership, AFPC, etc. to explain any rationale for decisions... they'll keep quoting AFIs & Fact Sheets to avoid acknowledging their back-handed & coersive actions to pretend that all is well in personnel management land. I'm starting to walk away... 30 Nov keeps looking better & better- When I received my initial Non-Select counseling, that was how it was explained to me as well. Using 30 Nov 2015 as the mandatory separation date; my TAFMSD put me within 4 years of retirement. AFPC said that meeting the four year "window" would be the pass to continuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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