BQZip01 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Speaking of making aircraft stealthy, I read somewhere that the Germans used some device to fool British radar into thinking the aircraft was some distance behind its actual location, thus causing the British to send fighters to intercept a ghost. Anyone have any info about this device? It's amazing what a little electronic warfare can do. http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/service_pubs/afd2_5_1.pdf (read the section entitled "deception") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miclhstrase Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Interesting stuff! There were so many great deception techniques during WWII, both in EW and disinformation schemes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQZip01 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Interesting stuff! There were so many great deception techniques during WWII, both in EW and disinformation schemes... If you are being sarcastic, suck it If you are sincere and actually interested, electronic warfare was the basis for silicon valley: 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miclhstrase Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 If you are being sarcastic, suck it No sarcasm, and not sucking anything. It really is interesting stuff, a lot of which I didn't even know existed. The more you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQZip01 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 No sarcasm, and not sucking anything. It really is interesting stuff, a lot of which I didn't even know existed. The more you know... fair nuff (sorry for the quick retort; I've been a little paranoid lately) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standby Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 fair nuff (sorry for the quick retort; I've been a little paranoid lately) 'I wouldn't be so paranoid if everybody wasn't out to get me...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQZip01 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 'I wouldn't be so paranoid if everybody wasn't out to get me...' It isn't paranoia if they are out to get you... :M16a2: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The pic with the hajis standing next to the tail boom is what I noticed: looks massive. All of the discussions have centered around a "modified blackhawk". That looks more like a -53 sized beast. Not even close to -53 size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQZip01 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 looks kinda similar to the Comanche's tail rotor blade assembly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoleIt Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 looks kinda similar to the Comanche's tail rotor blade assembly. Considering the Comanche was a stealth helicopter...that does make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brock Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 looks kinda similar to the Comanche's tail rotor blade assembly. Minus the Fenstrom tail rotor it looks just like the Comanche. I wonder if the rest of the airframe followed the same lines or it was just the tail boom back that followed the design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 looks kinda similar to the Comanche's tail rotor blade assembly. Comanche had a ducted tail rotor (Fenestron is an Eurocopter trademark). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 We just left some mocked up wreckage there as a prop to scare the shit out of the rest of the world that "our special ops guys have cool shit people don't know anything about...so watch your ass." I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaman Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 (edited) I am going to take an educated guess and say that the "stealth helicopter" used in the Bin Laden raid was a highly modified Sikorsky S-92. I am going to speculate further and venture it might be one of the prototypes of the "Marine One" helicopters used in the test program that JSOC quietly acquired and modified at some obscure location like Waco (E-Systems). Question, are all the S-92 test aircraft for the cancelled "Marine One" accounted for? I will also speculate it is NOT an RAH-66, H-60 or H-53. I hope I am not breaking OPSEC by speculating...Was told that was a "No-No" in my AD days. Edited May 17, 2011 by Kaman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I hope I am not breaking OPSEC by speculating...Was told that was a "No-No" in my AD days. Lol, so now that you're no longer AD feel free to speculate all you want. OPSEC be damned! /sarcasm font Whatever it was was probably bad ass and hopefully one day we'll know the truth when the book gets written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breckey Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Marine One was going to be a US-101, not an S-92. The VH-92 was a proposal by Sikorsky but it lost out to LM for the contract. Also the stabilizer on the wreckage is at the base of the tail a la H-60, verses at the top left side a la S-92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 First rule of Fight Club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I am going to take an educated guess and say that the "stealth helicopter" used in the Bin Laden raid was a highly modified Sikorsky S-92. Sorry, you're not even close. Also the stabilizer on the wreckage is at the base of the tail a la H-60, verses at the top left side a la S-92 S-92 horizontal stabilizer is on the right side only, at the base of the tail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Looks like it's all back...allegedly. Pakistan has even promised not to sell remnants of the helicopter to China; what a great bunch of dudes. Pakistan had said earlier this month that it would not share the damaged helicopter with China, which has been accused of buying up wreckage of US military aircraft to get an insight into American defense technology. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Looks like it's all back...allegedly. Pakistan has even promised not to sell remnants of the helicopter to China; what a great bunch of dudes. Link Strange, didn't the Chinese just make deals to sell the Pakistanis JF-17s and build/manage a naval facility? Nah, the Chinese were never near the wreckage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitman Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I hope I am not breaking OPSEC by speculating...Was told that was a "No-No" in my AD days. Don't worry, nobody listens to old retired guys around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truman08 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) I guess they'll try to turn any type of situation into a buck..... Chinese Toy Company Makes Replica of Stealth Chopper Used in Bin Laden Raid Edited June 3, 2011 by Truman08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrndPndr Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I guess they'll try to turn any type of situation into a buck..... Chinese Toy Company Makes Replica of Stealth Chopper Used in Bin Laden Raid I don't know, the screens on the exhaust don't look quite right. FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExBoneOSO Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I guess they'll try to turn any type of situation into a buck..... Chinese Toy Company Makes Replica of Stealth Chopper Used in Bin Laden Raid Kinda like this "exact replica"..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Do they use lead paint for extra stealth/EMP protection on the toy? You know, just to add realism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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