Lord Ratner Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 http://youtu.be/1sxtdWZzWnE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runr6730 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 How inspiring, Mr. President Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ratner Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 How inspiring, Mr. President Totally as good as Reagan's speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
338skybolt Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 How inspiring, Mr. President What do you expect? He leads from behind (sts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slander Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Open sources says Dutch and Australian troops are going to secure the crash site. Open sources also say Russia is sending "heavy weapons" into Ukraine. Things are getting sportier by the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Time to even things up UAF needs some EA & SEAD-DEADhttp://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/07/23/ukraine-rebels-separatists-fighter-jet-shot-down/13034005/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited July 27, 2014 by Clark Griswold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Man Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Why not? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Man Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I won't pretend to be smart on the geopolitics over there, but I see nothing good coming from intervening. What is your reasoning for doing so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) I won't pretend to be smart on the geopolitics over there, but I see nothing good coming from intervening. What is your reasoning for doing so? Because it gives the West an alternative to direct involvement to prevent / reverse Russian gains & efforts in causing the break up of Ukraine. There is a risk of escalation but the risk of a Russian victory ala a successful pro-Russian separatist victory in eastern Ukraine is worse. Giving them systems and training to effectively counter the aid the Russians are giving these yokels is a good move. We have been on the sidelines in terms of supporting movements that are carrying the water for us in parts of the world based on worrying too much about escalation, our enemies like Russia, Iran, China, etc... don't have such concerns and as such we have to help out our friends or possible friends even if it might ratchet things up. It's old school but the Domino Theory was right, you have to stop the spread of your enemy before his momentum carries the day. First it was Crimea, next it will be eastern Ukraine, then it will be reoccupation of the Baltics... like it or not we live in interesting times requiring the application of smart force from all the Instruments of Power: Military, Economic, Diplomatic, Informational, etc... our enemies haven't gotten the memo from Kerry that "You just don't in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pre-text," Kerry told the CBS program "Face the Nation." It amazes me how naive this administration is to believe that you can have a debate with authoritarian regimes, dictators and fanatical theocratic terrorist movements about human rights, peace negotiations, and rule of law based classic liberal values. These people respect force and decisive action, they interpret anything else as dithering weakness, no wonder democracy is getting it's ass kicked lately... Edited July 28, 2014 by Clark Griswold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Man Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 1. How is providing EA/SEAD/DEAD not direct involvement? 2. Our foresight after providing military intervention is slim to none, and I have little faith in our current leadership (not just BO) to successfully navigate those waters. Out of curiosity, what do you do in the military? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) 1. How is providing EA/SEAD/DEAD not direct involvement? 2. Our foresight after providing military intervention is slim to none, and I have little faith in our current leadership (not just BO) to successfully navigate those waters. Out of curiosity, what do you do in the military? 1 - by direct involvement I think we mean boots on the ground or NATO iron in the air. if we give them financial aid and they purchase what they need, SAAB, Dassault Systems, Elbit Systems etc could supply without directly involving the US. 2 - we've got some successes under our belt: US aid to the Mujahideen to eject the Soviets from Afghanistan minus the blowback from no follow thru plan following the Soviet exit, the success of Plan Columbia in thwarting the cartels from turning that country into a failed narco state, and reaching into the past look at Europe & Korea post hostilities - they took some time but they came around I'm a pilot in the ANG but have a about 10 years AD time and have been fortunate to have flown several airplanes. I am interested in geopolitics / history - if I was not doing what I am doing now I think FAO would be a pretty good gig Edited July 28, 2014 by Clark Griswold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Russian bombers penetrated U.S. airspace at least 16 times in past 10 days Not in sovereign airspace but into the NW ADIZ, still provacative. Time to push another button besides Reset with Russia. Edited August 7, 2014 by Clark Griswold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Russians mock Obama's birthday. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/07/russians-project-racist-happy-birthday-message-on-u-s-embassy-in-moscow-to-mock-obama/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 The Bear is awake. Russia Brings Together Some of the World’s Best Fighter Pilots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Bluster or foreboding. Russian General Calls for Preemptive Nuclear Strike Doctrine Against NATO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTQ Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The world is starting to make sense again. Russians are back to being the bad guys we all knew them to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 The world is starting to make sense again. Russians are back to being the bad guys we all knew them to be. True - the Russians are reprising their traditional spoiler role in the world but as to the general's comments not surprising. The Russians rely on or plan on tactical nukes in potential conflicts with peer advisories. This just gives the Euros a little more reason to be nervous. The Ruskies have a HUGE advantage over NATO in terms of number and delivery of tactical nukes and if you really want to give Putin an ulcer, you would close this gap. Russian tactical nuclear weapons still an issue after START treaty ratification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTQ Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Break out the alert pads and Fulda Gap plans! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Break out the alert pads and Fulda Gap plans! Oh yes... back to the good ole days... but it would not hurt to have a show of force like the old days, say a 20 bomber force in 4 formations non-stop unannounced to Europe, drop in ranges in Finland, Poland, Hungary and Romania. Russia's been flexing nuts as they say, it's time to return the favor. Russian strategic bombers near Canada practice cruise missile strikes on US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTQ Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 We need some new toys for this old war. Space based lasers. Think about it. To annoy the Russians, we could set it to on low and write graffiti all over red square. That would definitely pay them back for the embassy light show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Break out the alert pads and Fulda Gap plans! Side note... We were pulling old stored crap out of the basement of the bowling alley at Illeshiem several years ago and we found a lot of that stuff buried in boxes. Guess we shouldnt have thrown it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTQ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Too bad Tom Clancy died. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 We need some new toys for this old war. Space based lasers. 2 Or Rods from the Gods. They would be evil rods of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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