SuperWSO Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I am not zipping my leg pocket even if I have to leave one cap in it and wear another. Best REMF/Shoe BFM of the day. Next year the reg will specify a maximum number of hats one can have on his/her person. I know you guys have seen A-10s with a "canopy" painted on the underside so you can't tell which way he is turning. Maybe we can start painting half a flight cap on the right leg of everybodys flight suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Noonin Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Sorry to be the one to break it to ya, but the, "t-shirt... is" is the proper grammar there... Sorry to break it to you but "t-shirt...is...t-shirts" is not proper grammar there. Read the whole sentence. Nice try though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jango220 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 6.2.4.1. (Male and Female) . The flight cap will be worn slightly to the wearer's right with vertical creases of the cap in line with the center of the forehead and in a straight line with the nose. Wasn't that just optional before? The Uniform board is reaching pretty far back for this piece of heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 slightly to the wearer's right with vertical creases of the cap in line with the center of the forehead and in a straight line with the nose Wait, how can it be to the right and in line with the center of the forehead? Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08Dawg Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hopefully I'm not alone in the fact that I will continue wearing my Friday shirt, unless somebody in a bag with wings on his chest tells me not to. Fucking shoes...this is the AIR Force, we FLY, break shit and hurt bad people. If you're so damned butthurt about not being able to wear a bag, maybe you should've worked harder. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Sorry to break it to you but "t-shirt...is...t-shirts" is not proper grammar there. Read the whole sentence. Nice try though. Winning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 UFB. Killing morale shirts. That makes f'ing sense. Seriously, why is this offensive to anyone? How does this possibly make any sense?? Banning morale shirts which are meant to improve morale. It's shit like this that makes me crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmeaplane Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hopefully I'm not alone in the fact that I will continue wearing my Friday shirt, unless somebody in a bag with wings on his chest tells me not to. ######ing shoes...this is the AIR Force, we FLY, break shit and hurt bad people. If you're so damned butthurt about not being able to wear a bag, maybe you should've worked harder. All for it, but make sure you have mutual support. The two hats idea is funny, but needing to BFM the shoes is poor...should take care of this BVR. Couldn't somebody who's a staffer change the rules so that, in order to recommend a change to a uniform, you need to actually wear that uniform in your primary duty? There has to be some poor soul from A1 lurking on here. I think the band uniform is some stupid shit, but I'm not wasting time submitting "improvement" ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 In my (limited) experience they were already frowned upon if not prohibited by commanders at lower levels anyways. Case in point, the 562nd/563rd back at RND (old nav school squadrons) each had morale shirts on friday that got turned off by a OG/CC I believe who didn't like that we weren't "standardized" with the rest of the ops group, some of whom didn't do morale shirts out of preference. This was 2007. At my current base, we tried to do morale shirts on Fridays and the old SQ/CC said no and that was that. Maybe some pointy-nose dudes kept the spirit alive the past few years... I've seen the opposite: Friday shirts still worn by and large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Commanders can make the regs more restrictive... This myth should die. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Focus your hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Haven't seen any dislike or prohibition of friday shirts in any corner of the fighter/trainer world that I've been in over the last 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 2.13.5. All Airmen should inform any Air Force member that is in violation of uniform and appearance standards. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Somebody email General Welsh, CH, I nominate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Remember when a flight suit used to be a distinctive uniform? Now you can only be distinctive as a cook, flight attendant, or Equestrian Competitor. Chapter 9 DISTINCTIVE UNIFORMS, ITEMS AND EQUIPMENT 9.3. USAF Honor Guard and Arlington National Cemetery Chaplains. 9.4. Installation and Base Honor Guard, Color Guard, Drill Team and Military Funeral Detail. 9.5. USAF Band, USAF Academy Band and USAF Regional Band. 9.6. Security Forces. 9.7. Air Force Food Service 9.8. Flight Attendant Uniforms 9.9. Medical Scrubs. 9.10. Equestrian Competition Service Dress Configuration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokke Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Wasn't that just optional before? The Uniform board is reaching pretty far back for this piece of heritage. Heritage? I think they are trying to help RIF'd majors find new careers in the current economy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbar Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Next thing will be to add a reg in there to prohibit tucking the back of the flight cap (combat tuck/Mach tuck). Or maybe it's already in there. I never bothered to read 36-2903 as it would just piss me off. Luckily I'm in a unit where the only AF people who outrank me are aviators and the rest of the other service O-6s and above are ignorant of/don't give a rat's ass about AF uniform regs. So I'm gonna keep wearing my morale patches.... PBAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone deaf Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Damn, my leg pocket zippers won't zip up and my unit doesn't have any funding for new flight suits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 UFB. Killing morale shirts. That makes f'ing sense. Seriously, why is this offensive to anyone? How does this possibly make any sense?? Banning morale shirts which are meant to improve morale. It's shit like this that makes me crazy. A "morale shirt"? I've never heard it called a "morale shirt". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Somebody email General Welsh, CH, I nominate you. Complete. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 A "morale shirt"? I've never heard it called a "morale shirt". Actually, me either. Always been a Friday Shirt. Thought that was the term the AFI used but I guess not.Timing is perfect too. I no shit just paid for a fresh batch of 30 Friday shirts last week. Good news is we're going to wear them anyway. Screw the change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram02 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 A "morale shirt"? I've never heard it called a "morale shirt". Probably because the AFI was written by someone who's never worn a "morale shirt." Shoe 1: "Hey Bob, what do you call those colored t-shirts the flyers wear every Friday that we really want to outlaw because we're secretly jealous of them?" Shoe 2: "Well, I know they wear morale patches, so they must be called morale shirts." Shoe 1: "Sweet, I'm putting that in the AFI right now." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragspider Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Yes this sucks about us getting out shoe'd. Cause I for one will miss my black boots, black t-shirt's, and my "moral shirts" that they say we can't wear anymore. Here's a thought and I'm going out on a limb here with all the free time that us flyers have, why don't we all just submit request in to the uniform board about bringing them back? Seems like the shoe's submit some pretty dumb ideas to them anyway. Why not try and get back our heritage or what ever new buzz word is for it these days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Shoe 1: "Hey Bob, what do you call those colored t-shirts the flyers wear every Friday that we really want to outlaw because we're secretly jealous of them?" Shoe 2: "Well, I know they wear morale patches, so they must be called morale shirts." Shoe 1: "Sweet, I'm putting that in the AFI right now." This made me laugh... but it's probably closer to how the conversation actually went than any of us want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Complete. I would like to see a copy of what you sent. We younger folk on the board could probably learn something regarding "how to email a general without looking like a retard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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