ziploc158 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I hear that we are switching to these instead of blues Monday..... http://www.sportkilt.com/product/1351/Kilt---US-Air-Force-Sport-Kilt-%28U%29.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitty Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I hear that we are switching to these instead of blues Monday..... http://www.sportkilt.com/product/1351/Kilt---US-Air-Force-Sport-Kilt-%28U%29.html Scroll down a little and check out the "Customer Action Shot." Fvcking priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Last Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Remember when a flight suit used to be a distinctive uniform? Now you can only be distinctive as a cook, flight attendant, or Equestrian Competitor. Chapter 9 DISTINCTIVE UNIFORMS, ITEMS AND EQUIPMENT 9.3. USAF Honor Guard and Arlington National Cemetery Chaplains. 9.4. Installation and Base Honor Guard, Color Guard, Drill Team and Military Funeral Detail. 9.5. USAF Band, USAF Academy Band and USAF Regional Band. 9.6. Security Forces. 9.7. Air Force Food Service 9.8. Flight Attendant Uniforms 9.9. Medical Scrubs. 9.10. Equestrian Competition Service Dress Configuration Are you fvcking kidding me? Horses!??? Talk about a useless program that could probably save a decent chunk of change... I need a beer, cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy.The.Engineer Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I find it hilarious that you guys still don't realize that you are getting stabbed in the back by your own community. About half of your "bros" that talk a good game right now are going to promote and then use their new found power to impose "shoe" rules on you. You guys keep referencing this aircrew versus the world situation...but in reality you are eating your own. In the CE world, our SNCOs always greet these new policies with a "I guess now they expect us to enforce this bullshit, too" attitude. I expect that is true in the MX world and about half of the support world. The reality is that everybody in the Air Force works for a pilot. It is in your hands to change it. Stop bitching and do something about it. Please, for the rest of us that will never have any real power. If some pilot O-9 out there put his foot down on uniform regs, they would change. If some O-6 flyer said that the "Home of the Fighter Pilot" sign at Nellis will stay up, it will stay up. Trust me. I'll take all of the negative ratings as a reflection of how close to home this hits. I like you man. You're crazy...but I like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayou_Eagle_Driver Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I find it hilarious that you guys still don't realize that you are getting stabbed in the back by your own community. About half of your "bros" that talk a good game right now are going to promote and then use their new found power to impose "shoe" rules on you. You guys keep referencing this aircrew versus the world situation...but in reality you are eating your own. In the CE world, our SNCOs always greet these new policies with a "I guess now they expect us to enforce this bullshit, too" attitude. I expect that is true in the MX world and about half of the support world. The reality is that everybody in the Air Force works for a pilot. It is in your hands to change it. Stop bitching and do something about it. Please, for the rest of us that will never have any real power. If some pilot O-9 out there put his foot down on uniform regs, they would change. If some O-6 flyer said that the "Home of the Fighter Pilot" sign at Nellis will stay up, it will stay up. Trust me. I'll take all of the negative ratings as a reflection of how close to home this hits. Sad, but oh so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 My SQ/CC was wearing his... As was mine, and his DO. That's awesome, wish it was like that everywhere. I'd bet money that none of them are 2-BPZers chasing that BPZ to O-6... I think that is in reference to them having to "maintain" a wheel cap. It's kinda like all officers having to maintain a mess dress We seriously have to 'maintain' a wheel cap? Really? When did that happen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I think technically it happened when you pinned on Major. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Just realized something... aren't there beaches in Hawaii and other places with black sand? So a "sand-colored" t-shirt could be black, right? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herkbum Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) Edited July 25, 2011 by herkbum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 there has to be a back story with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFNZ Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 there has to be a back story with this one http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=24149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 there has to be a back story with this one PYB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stract Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) Wow, I think this belongs in the "WTF?" thread. Dude's been busy! it's already in that thread. About 4 weeks ago... edit: added link... Edited July 25, 2011 by stract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEWingsMN Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Let us know how this works out. well, all this bitchin and zero effort trying to defend what their taking just leads to them taking more. Just saying we could start showing them that we'll just find other ways of taking pride in our job (even if it's an effort solely to piss them off) rather than just letting them stick it to us (STS) repeatedly. It can be done inside the books of the law too, that's all I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) Do the regs state the color of boot laces? On my phone so can't look up. Might be a nice protest that starting nov 1 you lace up the puke greenies with black laces and pour one out for my nice black boots now lost to the clerks. If it's legal led the regs I may press to test one day... If you have a creative LPA they could get some squadron morale shirts that are desert tan just on the small area that shows up top in a bag and the rest of the shirt is your old morale shirt color. Or you could institute shirtless Fridays in protest, that's been done before too. Edited July 25, 2011 by nsplayr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 ...our SNCOs always greet these new policies with a "I guess now they expect us to enforce this bullsh*t, too" attitude. I expect that is true in the MX world... The reality is that everybody in the Air Force works for a pilot. It is in your hands to change it. Stop bitching and do something about it. Please, for the rest of us that will never have any real power. If some pilot O-9 out there put his foot down on uniform regs, they would change. If some O-6 flyer said that the "Home of the Fighter Pilot" sign at Nellis will stay up, it will stay up. ... Bold item # 1: 100% true in MX world. I/We had/have enough bullsh*t to put up with as it was/is without trying to enforce silly sh*t that makes no sense what so ever. Change for change's sake only, give me a fvcking break. Bold item # 2: Again 100% correct. Will someone in charge please tell the shoes that life isn't fair, everyone's NOT a warrior and if they don't like things like "Home of the fighter pilot" on the front gate, morale patches and friday shirts because its "not fair" then too fvcking bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingHerc Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 So i saw the post about the wheel cap and went to 36-2903 just to take a look and here is what it says "6.2. Headgear. 6.2.1. The Men’s Service Cap (Wheel Cap). Will only be worn with the service dress and service uniforms. Women are authorized to wear the men’s service cap. For placement of appropriate clouds, darts and cap insignia, see figures 6.6, 6.7, and 6.8. 6.2.1.1. The visor-type service cap is banded with dark blue 1 ¾ inch braid and has a front black chin strap. An optional version has a braid of an open mesh construction and an optional black leather back strap. The cap sits squarely on the head with no hair protruding in front of the cap. Officers wear the service cap insignia without a circle and with the appropriate clouds and darts (based on rank) centered on the front of the cap. Enlisted wear the service cap insignia with a circle, centered on the front of the cap. Service cap is mandatory for Majors and above and optional for all others." I hate to say it but it sure looks like if your a major or above you are now supposed to wear your wheel cap in service dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learjetter Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) I disagree. After thinking about it for .69 seconds, it's more like this: if you're wearing a wheel cap you need to be wearing service dress. Like if you wear a long sleeve blue shirt you must wear a tie. Edit: that's .69 seconds I'll never get back...damn Edited August 12, 2011 by Learjetter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backseatdriver Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I hate to say it but it sure looks like if your a major or above you are now supposed to wear your wheel cap in service dress. Slow down turbo - same wording was in the old 2903. Let's not voluntarily give the shoes more ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 So i saw the post about the wheel cap and went to 36-2903 just to take a look and here is what it says "6.2. Headgear. 6.2.1. The Men’s Service Cap (Wheel Cap). Will only be worn with the service dress and service uniforms. Women are authorized to wear the men’s service cap. For placement of appropriate clouds, darts and cap insignia, see figures 6.6, 6.7, and 6.8. 6.2.1.1. The visor-type service cap is banded with dark blue 1 ¾ inch braid and has a front black chin strap. An optional version has a braid of an open mesh construction and an optional black leather back strap. The cap sits squarely on the head with no hair protruding in front of the cap. Officers wear the service cap insignia without a circle and with the appropriate clouds and darts (based on rank) centered on the front of the cap. Enlisted wear the service cap insignia with a circle, centered on the front of the cap. Service cap is mandatory for Majors and above and optional for all others." I hate to say it but it sure looks like if your a major or above you are now supposed to wear your wheel cap in service dress. Wrong assumption, once you are a FGO you are expected to possess a farts-'n-darts wheel cap; but there is no requirement to actually wear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funny_haha Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Will someone in charge please tell the shoes that life isn't fair, everyone's NOT a warrior and if they don't like things like "Home of the fighter pilot" on the front gate, morale patches and friday shirts because its "not fair" then too fvcking bad! You should see the looks I get when as a SNCO I tell people this. We are to touchy feely and want to make every one seem important. The Chief about shit a brick when I told him that not everyone in the AF is a warrior. Just because you are necessary doesn’t make you important! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plitter Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) Are we changing uniforms again? I was beginning to like my ABU's..... Article Airmen are so in love with the Army’s lightweight MultiCam-patterned combat uniform that they went bananas when they spotted the Air Force’s top enlisted leader wearing it. They wanted to know why he’s so special. A picture of Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force James Roy shaking hands with airmen in Afghanistan, popped up on the Air Force’s website. Roy was decked out in the OCP, or Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern, and everybody else had on the airman battle uniform. Edited August 16, 2011 by plitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Are we changing uniforms again? I was beginning to like my ABU's..... Air Forces Central Command requires any airman going outside the wire to wear the OCP Not unless you're running around off base in OEF. This actually makes some sense, because ABUs don't blend into anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I respectfully disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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