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Alaska F-22 crash: RIP, "Bong" Haney

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:beer::beer:

Please if anyone has any info on funds for his children let us know.

"The Air Warrior Courage Foundation has set up an education fund for Captain Haney's children. For information, please contact Capt. Tyler Ellison at 551-5250 or via e-mail at ellisonTM@hotmail.com."

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Once again the River Rats and the AWCF have stepped up to take care of a fallen brother. If you aren't a member yet you should be.

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The Air Warrior Courage Foundation (AWCF), with approval of Capt Haney's wife, is providing IRS 529 Scholarship Savings Accounts and $1K for each child. Donations can be made to the "Haney Children"... on our web page (http://www.airwarriorcourage.org/donations.html) or by mailing a check made out to "for the Haney Children" to AWCF, PO Box 877, Silver Springs MD, 20918. 100% of money designated to them WILL be placed in their accounts. The AWCF is an IRS 501©(3) non-profit. Donations are tax deductible and documentation will be provided. The AWCF is associated with the Red River Valley Fighter Pilots Association. Contact John L. Hope, Colonel, USAF-Ret at (866) 401-7287 for more info or questions.

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All AK-assigned aircrew complete USAF Arctic Survival Training at Eielson AFB, AK as part of their certification process to fly up here - if youre stationed up here in a flying unit, you go to the course, no matter what MAJCOM youre in. It's a week-long gentlemens course that I found to be fantastic training, WAY better than standard Survival School and you find that survival in the arctic isnt all that hard if you know a thing or two.

It was -30F when I was in the field.

RIP Jeff, I will remember you brother... Him Him.

Chuck

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Godspeed my brother. . .

and as mentioned above. . the RRVFPA has stepped up to take care of another fallen bro's family, if your not member and you fly, you should look into joining. They are an aging fraternity and can always use some young blood. (you dont have to be a pointy-nose dude to be a part of it either)

http://www.river-rats.org/index.php

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First public word I've seen about the Elmendorf crash. Does anyone have the original source?

http://www.flightglo...e-crash-366028/

F-22 oxygen system malfunctioned moments before crash

A US Air Force report says the regular oxygen system stopped working before a fatal Lockheed Martin F-22 crash in Alaska last November.

The accident investigation board still blames the accident on the pilot, Captain Jeffrey Haney, who failed to activate an emergency oxygen supply that could have saved his life and the aircraft.

But the failure of an engine bleed air system that feeds the Honeywell onboard oxygen generation system (OBOGS) in the moments before the crash is a new twist in the evolving story.

Only two months after the accident, the USAF internally acknowledged serious concerns about the F-22's oxygen system. In January, the USAF limited F-22s to flying below 25,000 feet. Starting on 3 May, the USAF grounded the entire fleet for more than four months, citing concerns about the pilot's oxygen system.

Although the F-22s resumed flying, the cause of dozens of reported oxygen system failures over several years was never pinpointed.

General Norton Schwartz announced the F-22 return-to-flight order in September. Speaking to reporters during the Air Force Association convention, Schwartz said investigators had "ruled out" the oxygen system as the cause of the F-22 crash last November.

The investigators instead blamed the accident on Haney, who failed to activate the EOS during the 31sec period after his normal oxygen supply became restricted.

The F-22's oxygen supply was automatically cut off after onboard computers detected bleed air was leaking out of the engine bay, which could cause a fire, the report says. The USAF investigators were unable to determine the cause of the bleed air leak.

Shutting down the bleed air system caused the OBOGS to fail, the report says. The OBOGS filters the bleed air through a molecular sieve and delivers the oxygen to the pilot's oxygen mask.

The report concluded that Haney inadvertently pointed the aircraft at the ground while trying to activate the EOS, a procedure that calls on the pilot to pull up on a small ring tucked into the side of his ejection seat.

Fifteen seconds before he crashed, Haney appeared to accidentally enter a sharp, descending right roll that turned the aircraft upside down, the report says.

A pilot assigned to the accident investigation tried to pull the EOS activation ring in a ground simulation, and also moved the stick and the rudder pedals by mistake trying to reach the device.

Haney's night vision goggles and cold weather gear also may have caused him to inadvertently veer off course. To look to the side or down without hitting the night vision goggles on the canopy, F-22 pilots have to brace themselves to shift their torso, the report says.

The investigators ruled out loss of consciousness as a possible cause despite possible oxygen deprivation.

Haney appeared to be conscious the entire flight. Only 3sec before the crash, Haney suddenly attempted a violent pull-up manoeuvre, but it was already too late.

I don't know enough to comment all that intelligently about this, but even from the outside something just reeks.

General Norton Schwartz announced the F-22 return-to-flight order in September. Speaking to reporters during the Air Force Association convention, Schwartz said investigators had "ruled out" the oxygen system as the cause of the F-22 crash last November.

Uhhhh, what?

The investigators instead blamed the accident on Haney, who failed to activate the EOS during the 31sec period after his normal oxygen supply became restricted.

It's not like he wasn't trying....

The report concluded that Haney inadvertently pointed the aircraft at the ground while trying to activate the EOS, a procedure that calls on the pilot to pull up on a small ring tucked into the side of his ejection seat.

Interesting they're still blaming the pilot considering....

A pilot assigned to the accident investigation tried to pull the EOS activation ring in a ground simulation, and also moved the stick and the rudder pedals by mistake trying to reach the device.

HAL anyone?

The F-22's oxygen supply was automatically cut off after onboard computers detected bleed air was leaking out of the engine bay, which could cause a fire, the report says. The USAF investigators were unable to determine the cause of the bleed air leak.
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First public word I've seen about the Elmendorf crash. Does anyone have the original source?

Here's the AF Times article.

Read the entire article, but here's the quote that floored me:

“I find the cause of the mishap was the MP’s [mishap pilot] failure to recognize and initiate a timely dive recovery due to channelized attention, breakdown of visual scan and unrecognized spatial disorientation,” wrote Brig. Gen. James Browne, president of the AIB.

So the jet cut off his oxygen, and as he was hypoxic/spatially disoriented, and trying to fix the system, he lost track of where he was at and got himself into an unrecoverable situation. The pilot was 100% to blame with no fault on the aircraft.

Just wow.

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