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I can finally finish my timeline .

AFOQT/TBAS May 2019

Interview September 2019

Selected October 2019

Swore Into the Unit November 2019

FC1 January 2020

Re-Commissioned May 2020

UPT September 22, 2020

Start to finish, once selected right at a year. The virus postponed my UPT dates some but still squeaked in.


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Off the street hire at a Guard Tanker Unit.

July Update: inching closer. 

 

AFOQT/TBAS: July 2016

Board: November 2019

Hired:  November 2019

MEPS: Passed April 2020 amid the 'rona outbreak. 

Enlistment: June 2020.

FC1: September 29, 2020

OTS: ??? 

UPT: ???

FTU: ???

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Isolated in Enid and not up for studying 15 hours a day so why not update the timeline here:

[Ex-AD, ANG Nav seeking Pilot slot with home unit. O-4, 37 with 12 years TFSC, needed ETP approved by NGB/A1 and AF/A1P. Have PPL.]

Board: March 2018 <- canxed, pilots overmanned

Board: April 2019

Hired, pending ETP approval: April 2019 

FC1 Scheduled: May 2019

FC1: July 2019 (soonest available after finishing IN school)

ETP submitted: July 2019

FC1 stamped, ETP updated: August 2019

ETP approved: 26 December 2019

Deployed: May-July 2020 (planned), heard no UPT slots for at least rest of FY2020 so didn't seem like an issue

< Call from Cathy Rico while broke in NH enroute to the AOR, mid-May, asking if I can get to Vance for a June class. I'm optimistic enough to reply "let me see" rather than flat out "no". While I still have to deploy, a mad scramble ensues involving me, my deployed chain, my home station chain, AFCENT, AMC, NGB, NASA, CIA, MiB, etc to get me recalled and send a replacement. That effort succeeds just under a month later; happily my Sq/CC and the STUS civilian work it out where I can roll a couple of classes. I get a rotator back to CONUS, throw a few things in my car, sublet my apt, and set out for Oklahoma. >

UPT (2.5!): 3 August 2020

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Been a while - anyone have a current gauge on Guard/fighter track timelines from graduation of TFOT to start of UPT? Some of the Guard/Heavy track dude's I've talked to recently are saying their gaps between graduation of TFOT and start of UPT are close to 7 months.

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Been a while - anyone have a current gauge on Guard/fighter track timelines from graduation of TFOT to start of UPT? Some of the Guard/Heavy track dude's I've talked to recently are saying their gaps between graduation of TFOT and start of UPT are close to 7 months.
Sadly, this is another "it depends" answer.

In my squadron alone, it will be 11 months between OTS and UPT, for me it was 4 months, for another guy it will be 3. The guy before all of us only waited 2 months.

This all just came from what was available in the FY by the time packages were approved by NGB. There's not really a "standard" wait. I'd say plan on 18 months from hire to UPT at a minimum. If it's faster, awesome.

Reserves seems to move a good bit faster once the board has met. I know a few guys that were in training 6-9 months after being hired. And if I remember correctly, they won't send you to OTS until you can follow on almost directly to your UPT base.

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11 hours ago, N730 said:

Sadly, this is another "it depends" answer.

In my squadron alone, it will be 11 months between OTS and UPT, for me it was 4 months, for another guy it will be 3. The guy before all of us only waited 2 months.

This all just came from what was available in the FY by the time packages were approved by NGB. There's not really a "standard" wait. I'd say plan on 18 months from hire to UPT at a minimum. If it's faster, awesome.

Reserves seems to move a good bit faster once the board has met. I know a few guys that were in training 6-9 months after being hired. And if I remember correctly, they won't send you to OTS until you can follow on almost directly to your UPT base.

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When your in-between ots and upt, are you on full time orders or can you go back to your civilian job?

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@Yeeyee yes. In the guard you can go back to your civilian job between OTS and UPT... if you have one. I got laid off due to covid before TFOT so I will need to find a new gig, especially if the gap is going to be longer than 3 months. I might try to find a way to go to SERE school before UPT if the gap is long enough.

 

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4 hours ago, Yeeyee said:

When your in-between ots and upt, are you on full time orders or can you go back to your civilian job?

I had a gap in orders between OTS/UPT and UPT/PIQ, so plan for the worst case accordingly. USERRA is a wonderful thing if you do have a job by the time you leave for training. However, your unit should work with you and keep you on orders if the gap is less than 30 days.

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13 hours ago, Yeeyee said:

When your in-between ots and upt, are you on full time orders or can you go back to your civilian job?

With the Reserves, yes, you will be on full time orders between all gaps in pipeline training. You start orders up the day before OTS and are solidly paid until you’re spit out at the other end as an winged and MWS-qual’d copilot. They aim for less than 30 day gaps in training, but you could have months’ of break, too. I have a Reserves friend that’s been “casual” at their home unit, post-UPT wings, awaiting FTU start dates for 6 months, getting paid/insured the whole time. It’s ideal if you don’t have another job and just need that paycheck/Tricare or are moving family around with you during training and giving up your place at home.

Guard is much more prone to breaks in training that aren’t on paid orders, so you may be funemployed with no income if you don’t have a job that’s holding a spot for you. If you are fortunate enough to have a job you can bounce back to whenever, it’s a good way to keep furthering your career/building seniority/possibly earn more money. Or you can save during training and go travel in the breaks. The COVID wrench may make this much less appealing, but last I heard nature doesn’t give you COVID. 

One size doesn’t fit all and some work better than others for certain folks, so do your research and make sure you’re ready for what may come. 

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Figured I'd post here as therapy during this lovely hurry-up-and-wait game!  I hope you all are doing well during these crazy times!

 

Hired off the street for a Guard fighter squadron.

AFOQT/TBAS: December 2018

UPT Board: May 2019 (selected as alternate)

Alternate to primary: got the call for the big leagues February 2020.

MEPS completed and signed off: May 2020

Enlisted and gained by the unit: June - July 2020

NGB approval for FC1 and OTS: still waiting

FC1: ???

OTS: ???

IFT: ???

UPT: ???

IFF: ???

FTU: ???

 

Stay safe out there!

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At TFOT now and we graduate Oct 17.   A few have begun to drop UPT dates in my class this is what I have so far: 6 T-1 track dudes have gotten dates between June and August of next year.  3 T-38 track dudes have been getting dates in February and March.

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On 7/8/2020 at 12:37 PM, mb1685 said:

are you perhaps an age critical candidate?

Is this a thing that can help if you bring it up in the appropriate channels with your unit?  I'm definitely on that bubble where I'm starting to worry about running up on age restrictions, especially given all the rumors of delays in the training pipeline. 

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Any idea why it takes the Surgeon General many months to approve of a medical waiver? Going on 4 months. Can my sponsoring unit make a call?

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Any idea why it takes the Surgeon General many months to approve of a medical waiver? Going on 4 months. Can my sponsoring unit make a call?


Are you a prior rated guy waiting on UPT dates? If your just a regular guy OTS bound or just done with OTS with no UPT dates, your FC1 approval packet goes to the end of the pack. They usually put priority to push 2992s for bros with school dates in hand or darn navy marine rated guys going direct to a PIQs


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I was picked up in June 2019 then had to undergo a 6 month waiver process due to some issues from my past. Then Covid hit and I was lucky to squeeze into Wright Patt in July 2020. FC1 was stamped the first week of September and now I'm hearing that I may not make it to UPT until fall of 2021.

Dig in deep guys and gals it'll be a wait.

What are you all doing in the meantime to not go crazy? 

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I was picked up in June 2019 then had to undergo a 6 month waiver process due to some issues from my past. Then Covid hit and I was lucky to squeeze into Wright Patt in July 2020. FC1 was stamped the first week of September and now I'm hearing that I may not make it to UPT until fall of 2021.
Dig in deep guys and gals it'll be a wait.
What are you all doing in the meantime to not go crazy? 
That's not far off. I had about 14 months in between my FC1 being approved and starting UPT. It feels like forever, but just keep the civilian job, save some money, and enjoy the free time before you're in the books.

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On 9/30/2020 at 9:59 AM, Cherokeeflyer said:

I was picked up in June 2019 then had to undergo a 6 month waiver process due to some issues from my past. Then Covid hit and I was lucky to squeeze into Wright Patt in July 2020. FC1 was stamped the first week of September and now I'm hearing that I may not make it to UPT until fall of 2021.

Dig in deep guys and gals it'll be a wait.

What are you all doing in the meantime to not go crazy? 

Scanning the forums to see if anyone has the slightest bit of news. It's probably making me even crazier. I'll update my timeline since its been awhile.

Hired: Oct 2019 by Reserve Tanker Squadron

MEPS: December 2019 /January 2020

FC1: June 2020

AFRC Board: Missed July board waiting on FC1 to be stamped, Submitted for Oct 2020.

I've heard these boards are impossibly backed up so I could be in the rotation of these for a long time. 

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On 9/30/2020 at 9:59 AM, Cherokeeflyer said:

I was picked up in June 2019 then had to undergo a 6 month waiver process due to some issues from my past. Then Covid hit and I was lucky to squeeze into Wright Patt in July 2020. FC1 was stamped the first week of September and now I'm hearing that I may not make it to UPT until fall of 2021.

Dig in deep guys and gals it'll be a wait.

What are you all doing in the meantime to not go crazy? 

Hot java. I just had my FC1 last week, I sure hope the UPT wait wont be that long. Have you gotten OTS dates yet?

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Not yet man. Rumors from my squadron are that the earliest could be April but don't plan on going until at least August. That's just from my squadron with my situation. 

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We had a guy who got hired the board before me just drop OTS dates for this October class that starts like next week or something. Did your squadron submit for OTS dates then? Or is your ascensions package still routing?

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Yet another, I can finally finish my timeline!

 

Reserve Heavy Squadron

Interview & hired - Oct 2018

MEPS - Dec 2018

FC1 - May 2019

AFRC Board - Nov 2019

Swear in - Dec 2019

340th In-processing - Oct 2020

OTS - Oct 2020

UPT 2.5 - Feb 2021

 

Age waiver, medical waiver, and a pandemic...don't give up!

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My timeline for guard fighter squadron:

Hired: AUG 2020

MEPS: ? (hopefully soon)

FC1: ?

OTS: ? 

UPT: ? 

Was told to expect between 6 mo- 2yrs to start UPT.

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