General assignments questions

[gonefishin]

You were told at the beginning of this VML that you were on the list? Just wondering what your previous airframe was and if you would please keep us updated when you get your assignment match.

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I was told months ago that I was released. I flew C-130s.

[Homestar]

Does anyone have an idea of where AFPC is on summer VML assignment matching? I've heard that the matches are complete but waiting to be loaded into a computer system. 

Anyone have a spy on the inside?

Edited April 1, 2017 by Homestar
Clarity

[matmacwc]

Only for fighter dudes....

[daynightindicator]

Does anyone have an idea of where AFPC is on summer VML assignment matching? I've heard that the matches are complete but waiting to be loaded into a computer system. 
Anyone have a spy on the inside?

I'm in the process of getting orders. School/staff matches are complete. Regular moves are in the works now.

If you're expecting something, check vMPF every day. I saw my assignment about 3-4 days before the robot email.


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[Duck]

Shouldn't the fall vml guys have been notified on Friday that they are on the list? I'm ready to get out of here and I got nothing...


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[Homestar]

1 hour ago, daynightindicator said:

 

I'm in the process of getting orders. School/staff matches are complete. Regular moves are in the works now.

If you're expecting something, check vMPF every day. I saw my assignment about 3-4 days before the robot email.


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Yeah I've been checking vMPF like a meth addict the past few weeks. Hoping they get the regular moves loaded soon!

Edit to add: I've been checking under Self Service Actions....is that where you saw your assignment?

Edited April 1, 2017 by Homestar

[Homestar]

22 minutes ago, Duck said:

Shouldn't the fall vml guys have been notified on Friday that they are on the list? I'm ready to get out of here and I got nothing...


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I think you can also see this coded on your SURF if you didn't get the auto email yet. Under Assignment Availability Code. 

[osulax05]

Your SURF only updates once a week, so don't waste time checking that.

I've had luck clicking through initial assignment notification pages on vMPF. The last page had my assignment a few days before I got the email or CC notification (which is a huge foul). 

[Azimuth]

3 hours ago, osulax05 said:

Your SURF only updates once a week, so don't waste time checking that.

I've had luck clicking through initial assignment notification pages on vMPF. The last page had my assignment a few days before I got the email or CC notification (which is a huge foul). 

Prior Personnel guy here.

As soon as anything is updated in MilPDS, it'll be viewable immediately in vMPF. As stated above SURF's are just snapshots of MilPDS every few weeks.

[panchbarnes]

Appears to be a step in the right direction.  Curious to learn more about the new assignment process for the 11F and 12F bubbas.   

Trust but verify.

 

Leaders,

Coming to you with a special communication discussing several exciting
changes that are imminent and ongoing to the way we conduct assignments.  I
apologize upfront for the length of this note, but lots going on for you to
be aware of and we believe you and your Airmen will find these as steps in
the right direction toward a more transparent and interactive system.

Beginning on 18 Jan 18, Commanders/Senior Raters will receive 7-day advance
notifications of assignments for their Airmen.  All assignments (enlisted
E-8 and below and officer O-5 and below) will now go in advance to your
servicing Military Personnel Flight (MPF) who will disseminate that
information to unit commanders/senior raters 7 days before the official
notification to Airmen.  The idea was identified during the "Revitalizing
Squadrons" effort where commanders discussed being out of the loop and not
aware of the assignments being given to their Airmen.  The advanced
notification will enable commanders, or their delegates, to mentor and
discuss the pros and cons of the assignment with their Airmen prior to the
Airmen receiving the official notification - ultimately giving commanders
more ability to influence retention.  On the 8th day, Airmen will be
e-mailed their official virtual assignment notification, following current
notification procedures.  If we're doing our jobs correctly Commanders, more
so on the officer side, will have had involvement in the process with
recommendations and reviews of officer vectors, preferences, etc.  This
7-day period is NOT intended to be a negotiation/reclama period above
already existing assignment rule sets.  That said, we at the Air Force's
Personnel Center will remain attentive and agile to real world changes and
adjustments that may need to be made but would expect those to be the
exception and not the rule.  While we've tested this one I'm still sure
we'll run into a few glitches or unanticipated situations, so we look
forward to getting feedback from you all.  This is intentionally being put
in play now to impact all of our upcoming Summer '18 cycle moves.

In addition to the new notification, commanders and their representatives
will still have access to BLSDM rosters, which are updated every 24 hours
with a clear text "as of" date indicating any new assignments for assigned
personnel.  To aid MPFs/CSSs and Assignment Teams, Personnel Services
Delivery (PSD) Guides and Base Service Delivery (BSD) Guides are being
updated and news articles will be going out to educate the field on the new
process.  Assignment Webcasts targeting FSS/CCs, MPFs, AF/DPE, MAJCOM A1Ks,
CCs, CSSs, and Airmen will begin on 17 Jan 2018 with exact times and dates
listed below.  Our POCs are ####################

The second ongoing effort is a test of a new officer assignment system we
call Talent Marketplace.  This new system is currently being tested within
our 11F (fighter pilot) and 12F (fighter CSO) communities with ~430 officers
set to use the system to facilitate assignments during the Summer '18 cycle.
The new system is designed to increase transparency and awareness regarding
the positions being filled while allowing greater interaction and
communication by the member, losing commander, and for the first time by the
gaining billet owner.  The technology being used and the system itself are a
giant leap forward with a modern feel and interactive features that make it
much easier for officers and commanders to make inputs.  The system also
helps our assignment teams by using algorithms to help develop optimized
matches that we'll use as starting points as we apply "art" and our best
effort to accommodate all requirements.  Our team is working directly with
those in these two test communities and we've been underway for several
weeks.  As we move into February and March and begin making matches, we'll
come back out again with more information on test progress and our way
forward to include potential expansion into other AFSCs in future cycles. To
be clear and avoid any concerns, this system will NOT be a return to the
"all volunteer" system we had in the early 90s nor will it magically fix our
various officer shortages or retention issues.  But it is designed to
provide increased transparency and interaction that should lead to greater
awareness and satisfaction with the assignment process.  More to follow as
we progress.

The final adjustment to our officer assignment system is a transition from
three to two cycles each year.  This adjustment compliments the transition
to Talent Marketplace and is designed to give us all more time to
communicate, interact, and make "artful" assignment matches.  Rather than
having Spring/Summer/Fall cycles we will transition to only having Summer
(report dates in June-thru-September) and Winter (report dates in
Oct-thru-May) cycles.  Under the two-cycle system we will move the same
number of Airmen and Airmen will still move as required throughout the year.
The major change is the reduction of one vulnerable-mover-list (VML) each
year.  For commanders and billet owners, this means one less VML in terms of
workload each year.  The transition should also increase the amount of
advanced notification time officers and their families receive for their
move, with some getting as much as 11-months advance notice.  The two-cycle
system will allow for more interaction and communication with our officers,
billet owners, and commanders which is what the Talent Marketplace
assignment system is designed to do.  We'll begin transitioning later this
Spring and will move straight to a Winter '18 cycle following the Summer '18
cycle.  More detailed information will follow but wanted you to have a heads
up now.  

Thanks for partnership as we continue to evolve our practices and systems to
allow commanders and Airmen a larger role in the talent management process.
We look forward to your feedback and questions as we progress with all three
of these linked efforts.

V/R, BK

BRIAN T. KELLY
Major General, USAF
Commander, Air Force Personnel Center
 

[BashiChuni]

"talent management process"

LOL

[nunya]

32 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

"talent management process"

"Flesh peddling process" didn't have quite the same OPR-bullet ring to it.  I'm glad they're getting some make-work done, but nothing in that email sounds like they have a clue how to fix retention.

[Sprkt69]

3 hours ago, nunya said:

"Flesh peddling process" didn't have quite the same OPR-bullet ring to it.  I'm glad they're getting some make-work done, but nothing in that email sounds like they have a clue how to fix retention.

Retention? I don’t believe they actually understand that word. They seem intent on just producing their way past the retention issue. 

[matmacwc]

So you get to 14 day opt and there will be massive body moves every assignment cycle because they are cutting from 3 to 2, awesome.  

[drewpey]

6 hours ago, panchbarnes said:

The technology being used and the system itself are a
giant leap forward with a modern feel and interactive features that make it
much easier for officers and commanders to make inputs.

 

[panchbarnes]

So for the folks that were around in the early 90s.  What is this "all volunteer" assignment system that BK spoke of?  Why did we get rid of it?  Did it guarantee a good deal every 2 years?  Anything close to Belgium to Hawaii to Ramstein to Aviano?

[ThreeHoler]

Maybe they will move less people with only two cycles because they will realize that a hard and fast moving every three years or less is really a special kind of stupid.

[FUSEPLUG]

10 hours ago, drewpey said:

 

”Artful”

[WheelsOff]

On 1/18/2018 at 9:31 PM, matmacwc said:

So you get to 14 day opt and there will be massive body moves every assignment cycle because they are cutting from 3 to 2, awesome.  

Didn’t see in the original email where it said a 14 day opt instead of the normal 7 day opt? (Maybe I skimmed over it?)

Either way, it’s one of the hidden land mines under this new system: ”providing as much as 11 months’ notice”...AFPC’s clever way to get you to show your cards that much sooner and bone you with a 180/365 as a parting gift.

[matmacwc]

5 hours ago, WheelsOff said:

Didn’t see in the original email where it said a 14 day opt instead of the normal 7 day opt? (Maybe I skimmed over it?)

Either way, it’s one of the hidden land mines under this new system: ”providing as much as 11 months’ notice”...AFPC’s clever way to get you to show your cards that much sooner and bone you with a 180/365 as a parting gift.

Your CC gets the info 7 days before "official" notification, once you get "official" notification you have 7 days to opt out.  7+7 = 14 so.........

[Guest]

Your CC gets the info 7 days before "official" notification, once you get "official" notification you have 7 days to opt out.  7+7 = 14 so.........

Sounds like the CC doesn’t have to give you the heads up though.

[nunya]

Just now, ihtfp06 said:

Sounds like the CC doesn’t have to give you the heads up though.

Barring some crazy circumstance, the fact that any CC wouldn't call you in on Day 1 is absurd.  But I also know some CC somewhere will play I have a secret to avoid giving you bad news face to face.  Easier to hide in their office and let you check your email.

[ClearedHot]

The new AFPC Patch

 

[WheelsOff]

17 hours ago, matmacwc said:

Your CC gets the info 7 days before "official" notification, once you get "official" notification you have 7 days to opt out.  7+7 = 14 so.........

Ah, didn’t realize the CC got it 7 days in advance. And thanks for the lesson in basic math...

Agree with Nunya...can’t imagine why a half decent CC wouldn’t let their people know ASAP once they found out...seems like a douche move to sit on news like that for no reason.