disgruntledemployee Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Thats it! No more! I want Congress to introduce legislation to ban all pistol gripped water nozzles, those are clearly very dangerous. Also, those car wash nozzles with the hose sticking out of the back, ban those. They can look like flame throwers. Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10percenttruth Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I actually paint all of my guns neon green & yellow with orange muzzles, just to confuse people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I actually paint all of my guns neon green & yellow with orange muzzles, just to confuse people. Or maybe these would work just as good... Oh and of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HercDude Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Feel bad for the guy and his family. What a tragedy. But of course my first question is how drunk/stupid do you have to be to respond to the police drawing their guns on you by pointing a black garden hose nozzel with no hose attached at them? Did he think they would find that funny? Then again, that's just the police version of events....... Anyone want to hear PYB's take on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10percenttruth Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Anyone want to hear PYB's take on this? Anyone want to staple their eyeballs? Anyone want to set their pubes on fire & put em out with a screwdriver? Anyone want to take a 720 to BIAP with no TDY pay? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac airlifter Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Feel bad for the guy and his family. What a tragedy. Then again, that's just the police version of events... Yup. Who knows what really happened? I've seen enough now that my knee jerk reaction is no longer to trust the first version of events I hear given by the party most interested in self preservation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Tragic, but an understandable and reasonable reaction by the police. First, there was a 911 call of "a drunken man with a gun" by one of the neighbors. Secondly, when police arrived, the individual responded with actions that appeared to be his pointing a weapon at the officers. In response, the officers shot first. Police are trained to respond like that, it's called "action before reaction." He appeared to pose a threat and there is no legal requirement to issue a warning. I understand their grief, but unfortunately the man's death was caused by a series of his own stupid actions and bad luck. Put yourself in the police's position, how would you react? It's a difficult situation, man; and none of us were there. All we have is a bunch of hearsay because no cop in his right mind is going to indict himself. There are a lot of variables we aren't privy to. If I were this dude's brother, would I be upset that he was killed? Absolutely. If I were one of the police officer's kids, would I say they made the right move? Of course I would; because I would care more about my parent than I would care about some drunk guy. I'm well aware of the fact that cops are conditioned to protect themselves, and conditioning, by definition, is mutually exclusive to judgment. So I don't necessarily blame them for their reaction, but it's not like we're not talking about South Central here either; it was Long Beach. Realistically, my man, this whole situation has some pretty deep philosophical and political implications. I know where you're coming from, and I'm partially inclined to agree with you. The other half of me says that this is a litmus test that gives us a lot of information about where we're at in society these days. Either way, it sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkFE Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 It's a difficult situation, man; and none of us were there. All we have is a bunch of hearsay because no cop in his right mind is going to indict himself. There are a lot of variables we aren't privy to. If I were this dude's brother, would I be upset that he was killed? Absolutely. If I were one of the police officer's kids, would I say they made the right move? Of course I would; because I would care more about my parent than I would care about some drunk guy. I'm well aware of the fact that cops are conditioned to protect themselves, and conditioning, by definition, is mutually exclusive to judgment. So I don't necessarily blame them for their reaction, but it's not like we're not talking about South Central here either; it was Long Beach. Realistically, my man, this whole situation has some pretty deep philosophical and political implications. I know where you're coming from, and I'm partially inclined to agree with you. The other half of me says that this is a litmus test that gives us a lot of information about where we're at in society these days. Either way, it sucks. This^ When I hear stories like this I just think about how the media F's up aviation stories. I know as much about cops and their training/procedures as the average cop knows about flying. It pisses me off to hear dumbass yocals and reporters giving all of their expertise on why/how an airplane crashed within minutes of an incident. Same thing here.....there is probably more to the story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac airlifter Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/07/03/59061.htm More abuse of power. M2, I know you like to assume the best about police but this kind of shit happens way to often man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 http://www.courthous...07/03/59061.htm More abuse of power. M2, I know you like to assume the best about police but this kind of shit happens way to often man. Nothing has been proven, that is only the claims of one side of the case and not a single one has been substantiated; but you're telling the police are automatically guilty? What ever happened to the judicial system of presumption of innocence? It goes both ways, my friend. Plus, this is a civil suit, not a criminal one; so if this did happen then why wasn't there a criminal investigation into it? The burden of proof in civil court is much lower than in criminal court, and I am suspicious when files are charged in the former and not the latter. If a "crime" has taken place as claimed, then there should be appropriate charges filed; but often people make claims only in attempts of financial gain and not "justice" as claimed. And sorry, but I don't believe "this kind of shit happens way to(o) often" no more than I believe that police officers are just looking for an opportunity to shoot someone as some claim. I know a lot of police officers at numerous levels, and even though a few are jerks I have yet to meet one that seriously had a desire to shoot another human being. It's tantamount to calling those in the military "baby killers"... So instead of reading such bullshit and believing it true, search on one Hood County sheriff's Sgt. Lance McLean, who was buried two days ago after being shot in the head Friday as he answered a disturbance call in a subdivision outside of Granbury that turned out to be a ambush. He was there to prevent his murderer from killing a girl he was accused of sexually assaulting last year, and was killed while intervening . I am sure his wife and two special-needs children would love to hear how corrupt and abusive police officers are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Back to a topic a little more lighter... Yoga vs Alcohol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tulsa Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.usatoday....ranhao/2495199/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.usatoday....ranhao/2495199/ Humm... NFL referees take note. Oh, and don't go on strike again. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 http://www.vogue.co.uk/ Once the page loads, type the Konami code. WTF? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 http://www.vogue.co.uk/ Once the page loads, type the Konami code. WTF? I'm old enough that I had to Google that code. Nifty easter egg--but how would that have been "discovered"? Obviously someone's hoping for viral ("free") advertising.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backseatdriver Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Serial trespasser at MacDill Air Force Base warrants explanation, senator says This lady keeps sneaking onto MacDill - they've found her at the gym, at a restaurant on base, hiding in a parking lot, and living in a boat in Fam Camp. WTF? Edited July 11, 2013 by backseatdriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 This is unbelievable and complete crap--and I don't care who is on trial. It's not justice to change the rules at the last minute. A defense prepares their case based off the charges the State brings at the beginning, not for other 'potential' charges that can be brought up at the last minute. Also, who's to say that a defedant would keep his same 'not guilty' plea if he new he was being tried for a lesser charge? If you want to charge him with something else (ie if there's a hung jury) then go for it, but start a new trial with the new charge. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEIGHBORHOOD_WATCH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-07-11-10-13-00 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/Man-Caught-Having-Sex-With-Pool-Raft-Again/-BPHET7gyUaOjzsGvj3wfg.cspx Man Caught Having Sex With Pool Raft-Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronxbomber252 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 This is unbelievable and complete crap--and I don't care who is on trial. It's not justice to change the rules at the last minute. A defense prepares their case based off the charges the State brings at the beginning, not for other 'potential' charges that can be brought up at the last minute. Also, who's to say that a defedant would keep his same 'not guilty' plea if he new he was being tried for a lesser charge? If you want to charge him with something else (ie if there's a hung jury) then go for it, but start a new trial with the new charge. http://hosted.ap.org...-07--10-13-00 Florida state law dictates that manslaughter is a lesser included charge to murder 2... It is pretty standard practice in florida. Zimmerman's lawyers should have already known this (and likely did). So, if the lawyer was worth his salt, he would have already been defending based on this possibility (and likely was). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Spike Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Back to a topic a little more lighter... Yoga vs Alcohol Looks like a night with BQZip's mom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catbox Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Florida state law dictates that manslaughter is a lesser included charge to murder 2... It is pretty standard practice in florida. Zimmerman's lawyers should have already known this (and likely did). So, if the lawyer was worth his salt, he would have already been defending based on this possibility (and likely was). I think what he's saying is the inclusion of Murder 3 with negligent child abuse thrown in at the end of the trial is leaving a bunch of us scratching our heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) I think what he's saying is the inclusion of Murder 3 with negligent child abuse thrown in at the end of the trial is leaving a bunch of us scratching our heads. No what I think he is saying (and I agree with) is the state takes the evidence it has and chooses what charge that crime fits. Then they must charge and subsequently prove in court those charges, if they want to end it early or don't think they can win, they can always offer plea bargains to lesser charges. However this idea that they can just start throwing in lesser charges for the jury to consider at closing arguments because they failed to make their original charge is asinine. In other semi-related news: http://www.thestate.com/2013/07/10/2856356/sc-supreme-court-stops-murder.html S.C. Supreme Court stops murder trial to see if home intruder can use "stand your ground" as grounds for killing homeowner. Edited July 13, 2013 by Fuzz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitteEinBit Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 http://www.thestate....ops-murder.html S.C. Supreme Court stops murder trial to see if home intruder can use "stand your ground" as grounds for killing homeowner. This is about as WTF as it gets. But then again, could it be a ploy to get a conviction for murder while committing a felony? By claiming "stand your ground" he has essentially admitted to killing the homeowner in the process of committing a felony...armed at that. It would APPEAR the state may be setting up the perfect confession. I'm not a SC Justice (I just studied SC Justiceology for one semester in college) but, I would say "stand your ground" doesn't apply when you are committing a crime. If that's the case, any criminal being chased by the cops who subsequently kills a cop can just claim that he thought his life was in danger... Nothing surprises me anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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