brickhistory Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 SrA Yummybritches wore revealing clothing because her leadership wanted three beers per day and to be left alone and did not care what she wore, and did not understand the waterfall effect of his piss poor leadership. Beer and American tail...I think that's worth fighting for (and admiring). I'm betting that "your Airmen" don't think as highly of you as you think they do. It comes across as HUGELY condescending. 99.69% are big boys and girls and if treated so, act so. For that percentage of airmen who fcuk it up, intentionally or not, the chain of command, with the first NCO in the chain is supposed to handle this. And it only gets bumped up until the lowest link in that chain fixes it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrooster99 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Beer and American tail...I think that's worth fighting for (and admiring). I'm betting that "your Airmen" don't think as highly of you as you think they do. It comes across as HUGELY condescending. 99.69% are big boys and girls and if treated so, act so. For that percentage of airmen who fcuk it up, intentionally or not, the chain of command, with the first NCO in the chain is supposed to handle this. And it only gets bumped up until the lowest link in that chain fixes it. S H A C K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 The base commander did say that, every time. And it didn't work. SrA Yummybritches wore revealing clothing because her leadership wanted three beers per day and to be left alone and did not care what she wore, and did not understand the waterfall effect of his piss poor leadership. And so we find ourselves in the sky is falling scenario that you describe. And we blame the shoes and the base commanders and the host nation. It could have been avoided. Who was the base commander at the Deid in '04 when the policy changed? Because I was deployed there at the time and that wasn't the reason we were told why the PT gear was implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Beer and American tail...I think that's worth fighting for (and admiring). http://www.hark.com/clips/dbjqfbyycr-if-im-gonna-get-my-balls-blown-off-for-a-word-my-word-is-poon-tang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap-10 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Who was the base commander at the Deid in '04 when the policy changed? Because I was deployed there at the time and that wasn't the reason we were told why the PT gear was implemented. http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7871 Cheers, Cap-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7871 Cheers, Cap-10 It was actually this guy. http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetter Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Fucking FAIP. Fucking patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap-10 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 It was actually this guy. http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7846 The leadership swapped out during my squadrons time there...Egg was the CC when we showed up, and Beast was the CC when we left. Cheers, Cap-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Fucking FAIP. Fuck you. FAIPs are hand picked. ... like a booger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Fucking patch. Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetfreezer Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Who was the base commander at the Deid in '04 when the policy changed? Because I was deployed there at the time and that wasn't the reason we were told why the PT gear was implemented. What was the reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Hungus Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 What was the reason? He sat SOF that day and was scarred for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter14 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 We still in civvies off duty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky_king Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 yep. I think it's here to stay too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter14 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 yep. I think it's here to stay too. Well then, here's to aircrew leadership and fully covered lower back tattoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I think the civvies thing may have been pushed from higher than wing level, since more than one base in the AOR made the exact same change on the exact same day. For someone doing a lot of preaching about leadership, this is piss poor leadership logic. You don't have to draw an imaginary line 10 feet back so that folks don't cross the actual line. And another 10 feet prior to that. We've all seen it in every aspect of the Air Force. Taking CBTs for every ORE leading up to an ORI so you can be "more green", the OG/CC setting a time for a briefing, SQ/CC pushes that back 15 minutes, FLT/CCs push THAT back 15 minutes, soon you're sitting in the base theater an hour before the briefing is supposed to start, one crew does something stupid in a plane and we're all watching a video of the CFACC telling us not to dick around... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 And another 10 feet prior to that. We've all seen it in every aspect of the Air Force. Taking CBTs for every ORE leading up to an ORI so you can be "more green", the OG/CC setting a time for a briefing, SQ/CC pushes that back 15 minutes, FLT/CCs push THAT back 15 minutes, soon you're sitting in the base theater an hour before the briefing is supposed to start, one crew does something stupid in a plane and we're all watching a video of the CFACC telling us not to dick around... Isn't that called "leadership"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Isn't that called "leadership"? Apparently. Leadership these days is less about getting results, more about CYA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky_king Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Apparently. Leadership these days is less about getting results, more about CYA. Nope. My SOS responsive readings say otherwise. I shall believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 You did the Sos readings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky_king Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 You did the Sos readings? Yep. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Yep. If that was anyone other than Don Draper, that would be so incredibly gay. Instead, it borders on epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XL0901 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Anyone know the current tobacco situation??? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsokimapilot Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Anyone know the current tobacco situation??? Thanks Can't be found here, unless you want to pay $10/can or pack. I brought enough for the duration of my time here. That'd be my recommendation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumangio Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 This just in, the threshold rule (men entering women's rooms and vice versa) has be rescinded. Eerily, this is not a big deal out here... almost like this place has "normalized." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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