HeyWatchThis Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I'm guessing here but the "course for pilot/nav/uav" you have listed in month 15 is IFS....with a commercial license, you can scratch that step out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcraftllc Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I'm guessing here but the "course for pilot/nav/uav" you have listed in month 15 is IFS....with a commercial license, you can scratch that step out..... Nope, I could totally be wrong but I remember someone mentioning some sort of basic officer course that covers the subject matter and mission of the aviation specific tacks and what's expected of you as an officer in that field. It has some kind of 4 letter acronym. I could have misinterpreted what someone was saying about UPT academics or something, or maybe in takes place after your qualified and before you go to your first unit. I'll ask a couple of the guys I know who fly for the AF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceman Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Nope, I could totally be wrong but I remember someone mentioning some sort of basic officer course that covers the subject matter and mission of the aviation specific tacks and what's expected of you as an officer in that field. It has some kind of 4 letter acronym. I could have misinterpreted what someone was saying about UPT academics or something, or maybe in takes place after your qualified and before you go to your first unit. I'll ask a couple of the guys I know who fly for the AF. SERE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcraftllc Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 SERE? LOL no, besides I'm SERE C qualified already. I talked to a friend of mine in the Air Force and he said there's no class in-between. I must have confused stories about the first week of UPT. That takes care of that. Looks like these days if you're SERE C, and already have a license there's not a huge hold up. I suppose the biggest things would be the Air Force physical and any kind of security clearance stuff. Month 1: Application submission. Month 2: Generally nothing Month 3: Board Convenes, packets are reviewed. Candidates are chosen for phone interviews. Month 4: Phone interviews are conducted and the remaining candidates are invited to a personal interview. Month 5: Interviews are conducted and primary/alternate are selected. Month 6-12: MEPS/Medical/Administrative processing etc. (maybe less for prior service?) Month 13/14: AMS (if available and faster, if it's faster to go through BOT, although the course is longer, then that will be used) Month 15/16: UPT (the academic portion first and then everything else). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milchstrasse Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Month 3: Board Convenes, packets are reviewed. Candidates are chosen for phone interviews. Month 4: Phone interviews are conducted and the remaining candidates are invited to a personal interview. Is this something special that's done for prior service/enlisted folks? None of the units I've applied to have done phone interviews prior to on-site interviews. Sometimes you can arrange a phone interview in place of an on-site interview... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcraftllc Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Is this something special that's done for prior service/enlisted folks? None of the units I've applied to have done phone interviews prior to on-site interviews. Sometimes you can arrange a phone interview in place of an on-site interview... I was told that the unit I'm talking to did this last time. Not sure if it's standard or what, just threw it in there based on what I heard. I'm trying to be a bit conservative on the timelines because I know how things can drag out in the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyWatchThis Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Is this something special that's done for prior service/enlisted folks? None of the units I've applied to have done phone interviews prior to on-site interviews. Sometimes you can arrange a phone interview in place of an on-site interview... I did a phone interview with my unit because I was deployed at the time.......I had stopped in numerous times and sat down with the SQ/CC before the deployment so that also helped.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milchstrasse Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Thanks for clarifying. I did a phone interview once due to travel issues -- but thought it was the exception and not the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookieRookie Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 SERE is after pilot training anyways for the most part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiFlyer Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Nope, I could totally be wrong but I remember someone mentioning some sort of basic officer course that covers the subject matter and mission of the aviation specific tacks and what's expected of you as an officer in that field. It has some kind of 4 letter acronym. I could have misinterpreted what someone was saying about UPT academics or something, or maybe in takes place after your qualified and before you go to your first unit. I'll ask a couple of the guys I know who fly for the AF. Probably thinking of the old "ASBC" course, a month long post-OTS course on "how the AF goes to war". It was cancelled in 2012 or so, but it's still in some of the unrevised instructions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcraftllc Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) Probably thinking of the old "ASBC" course, a month long post-OTS course on "how the AF goes to war". It was cancelled in 2012 or so, but it's still in some of the unrevised instructions. Good call man, that's what it was. Glad to hear it was cancelled. I was really disappointed to hear that they cancelled the FWQC, but with the elimination of ASBC and IFS (for licensed pilots), the timeline is much more manageable. I can understand how cutting courses like ASBC and IFS in order to save time and money makes sense, but getting rid of the FWQC to save money doesn't. It would seem to me that having a rated aviator be on active orders for a shorter period of time and fly less hours in his/her qualification would only save the Air Force time and money. One of the F-16 pilots I've been working with on this actually used it back in 2010. If it was still there myself, the prospective unit, and the Air Force would have a much easier time making this happen. Edited March 26, 2014 by xcraftllc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcraftllc Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Just wanted to update this based on what I've found out: Due the budget constraints, ANG and reserve units are having a hard time being able to tell exactly when they'll be able to put selected applicants through UPT. For example, the unit I've been working with only knows that their UPT class will be "some time in FY16," even though the board will be conducted at the end of this year. Although this will in my case potentially put it past my 30th birthday, I spoke about it with the Group Commander and he still highly encourages me to apply. I'm not sure how this relates exactly to Active Duty, but from what I last heard, they are able to shuffle age-critical personnel around as needed to get them through in time, I'm assuming based on what the Commander told me that the ANG can work a similar deal. There are of course always Waivers and ETPs which can be used for such minor deviations in such adverse circumstances. Anyway I've also heard of this happening to some other units so I just thought I'd throw it out there to give a heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlassEmpty Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Says who? I'm a recent select who's applied for PC. My unit has told me to expect a OTS date prior to the new year from what they have for projections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlassEmpty Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Update to my status, I hit the June AFRC board and received a 15-03 OTS class and UPT starting in March of 15. This may give timelines to those in the future. Board results came out 8 July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 ANG/AFRC is a different forum. Go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian1234 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Regarding Active Duty pilot selection: What is the general timeline for things if you find out you're selected? For this board we're supposed to have the results in February. Approximately when could you expect to go off to officer training, UPT, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiFlyer Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) It varies lot depending on post-selection paperwork, how the physicals go (needed waivers), etc. but I'd expect 7-9 months to your OTS date, then straight to UPT base, sit for a month or two, allow five weeks for IFS (if you have to go), sit another month, then start UPT class for the next year. No guarantees, but that's a rough estimate with "normal" training schedule and delays. Edited January 24, 2015 by HiFlyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian1234 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Great, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceballs Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Any rumors on what the board is looking for this time around? I've heard some years the rankings are the big thing and other years it's the PCSM/AFOQT scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Frank Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 What have been the general trends for class drops? For example, how many UPT students generally get fighter, mobility, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 What have been the general trends for class drops? For example, how many UPT students generally get fighter, mobility, etc.? The only real trend is that historical data is not reliable for upt assignments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanePhlyer Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 What have been the general trends for class drops? For example, how many UPT students generally get fighter, mobility, etc.? It changes every 3 weeks. Be the best and you have the best chance to get what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12xu2a3x3 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 some attempts at plotting track/drop probability 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10percenttruth Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 What have been the general trends for class drops? For example, how many UPT students generally get fighter, mobility, etc.? 1. Timing is everything 2. There is no justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12xu2a3x3 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 1. Timing is everything 2. There is no justice standard thought process, maintainer's perspective, now applied to drops: 1. they wouldn't set it up like that, that's insane > 2. oh lord, they did > 3. WHY > 4. (picks up wrench) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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