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1 hour ago, nunya said:

Dick's pulled a similar stunt after Sandy Hook.  

http://www.guns.com/2012/12/27/dicks-cancels-troy-carbine-pre-orders-troy-customers-irate/

Then undid it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/dicks-sporting-goods-selling-assault-rifles-again-new-store-chain-f6C10964008

That's some serious conviction right there.  They didn't sell them for a whole 9 months.

Fuck em.  

To be fair, their Field and Stream stores are not the same stores as their Dick's Sporting Goods stores.

The Dick's stores never stocked them after Sandy Hook. Now they're taking them off the shelves of their Cabellas/Bass Pro Shop type of store.

 

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4 hours ago, HU&W said:

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Edit to add, the average age for mass shooters is 34, with the preponderance being white males.  ................

The average age for school mass shooters is likely much younger.  I can envision states, even a Congress and President, enacting an age 21 rule.  We already age restrict alcohol, which occurred because parents and communities were tired of their teenage kids dying in drunk driving accidents.  It won't stop school shootings, but it may reduce them.  That's why they'll try.  However, how many kids break into the parents' liquor cabinet? 

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2 hours ago, torqued said:

Everything is confused. I don't know what the F is happening.

 

The President advocated for taking people’s guns without due process, that’s what happened. Thanks Oba...wait a second...

No worries though, anything Trump said was null and void as soon as that meeting was over, as he has demonstrated repeatedly and on a variety of issues.

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Dick's self-imposed policy to limit long-gun sales to those over 21 will surely make some under 21'er and his/her lawyer rich.

If the state/federal law is 18, then for a store to decide public policy is lawsuit bait.

But at least it wasn't about wedding cakes...

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12 hours ago, nsplayr said:

No worries though, anything Trump said was null and void as soon as that meeting was over, as he has demonstrated repeatedly and on a variety of issues.

Agreed, he says all kinds of crazy shit.  Which he might believe at the moment he is saying it, but who can know?  

Still better than Hillary!  

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13 hours ago, brickhistory said:

Dick's self-imposed policy to limit long-gun sales to those over 21 will surely make some under 21'er and his/her lawyer rich.

If the state/federal law is 18, then for a store to decide public policy is lawsuit bait.

But at least it wasn't about wedding cakes...

Yeah, that's why hotels and car rentals places get sued all the time for not renting to those under 21. Wait a minute...

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Private companies should be able to do what they want, I don't harbor ill will towards them.  That doesn't mean I will shop there.

Still better than Hillary.

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On 2/28/2018 at 9:08 AM, Vertigo said:

To be fair, their Field and Stream stores are not the same stores as their Dick's Sporting Goods stores.

The Dick's stores never stocked them after Sandy Hook. Now they're taking them off the shelves of their Cabellas/Bass Pro Shop type of store.

 

http://time.com/money/5178963/dicks-semi-automatic-rifles-cabelas-bass-pro-shops/

Cabellas/Bass Pro are a separate company from Dicks, and are still stocking and selling ARs.

EditL Now that I re-read it, I think you meant that Field and Stream is Dick's version of a Cabellas/Bass Pro store. My bad, if that is what you meant.

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They age discrimination lawsuit is a winner for whoever files it though, gents, there is some money to be made!

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No, no.  See above where the laws applying to age discrimination are simply waived because...well, it's for the children.

Just trying to follow the logic train tracks of some here and in the crazy, divided society we live in:

Discriminating against a segment of the population by not selling them something you don't like/agree with is ok, but someone not selling/making something they don't like/believe is not.  

And the courts won't get involved with one issue because...something.  But the courts did on the other and it's ok.

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15 hours ago, brickhistory said:

No, no.  See above where the laws applying to age discrimination are simply waived because...well, it's for the children.

Just trying to follow the logic train tracks of some here and in the crazy, divided society we live in:

Discriminating against a segment of the population by not selling them something you don't like/agree with is ok, but someone not selling/making something they don't like/believe is not.  

And the courts won't get involved with one issue because...something.  But the courts did on the other and it's ok.

Age is a protected class, but it seems most of these laws were written to protect old vs young. That doesn't necessarily mean courts would interpret it that way.

I was able to find an age discrimination case with the ACLU for a PFC Zinn filing a complaint against holiday Inn for not renting him a room before age 21...but looks like it may have been settled before the precedent was set.

Step right up to be the next Dick Heller!

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On 2/28/2018 at 6:03 PM, disgruntledemployee said:

Yep, I too like to shoot in "Full semi-auto." 

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And I like how each time he fires the weapon his forward grip is on a different part of the rifle.  I guess his hand position is different in semi-auto vs full semi-auto.  LOL. 

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Back to the original topic. 

I picked this Del-Ton 316 Echo up a few weeks before the latest incident.  It's my first AR.  We shot up some beer cans a few weeks ago and I just took it to a real range the other day to sight it in.  Seems a very solid, nice piece, and all for $399 online delivered, no tax from CDNN (sold out now).  The only thing I added was the MagPul rear sight and a cheap sling. I  kind of like the classic, non-jazzed up look to it with the standard mil spec stock, heat shield, front sight, etc.  My cousin (army SF) came over and approved of it after tearing it apart, but not before recommending all the fancy accouterments like a quad rail with lights, scopes, a fancy sling, etc.  

Overall this seems to be a great piece.  Now I want another before the freaks try to ban them!  I was looking at other caliber ARs - anyone have any experience with the 7.62x39 or .308 ARs?  I also heard the .22LR versions are very fun and cheap to shoot and can be had for like $300.  I am eyeing up the S&W MP 15-22 gun for a plinker.  

Any strong opinions on magazines out there for the 5.56?  I bought a few Magpul mags to supplement the two "GI" mags that came with the rifle.  I really like the Magpul ones, but my cousin said they are banned by SOCOM, plus a lot of videos online (and the Marine Corps Reservist who works at the range) all say they swear by the cheap metal standard issue ones vs the plastic ones. 

 

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I have a mix of regular aluminum and Magpuls.  I then wanted something that will stand the test of time (i.e., if anyone ever banned future sales, they'd last forever) and picked up a few stainless steel mags. 

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My cousin said they first banned the window MagPul magazine, which I have 5 of, specifically because the window was a weak point after being dropped and stepped on.  He said they then banned all polymer Magpuls.  I told him I like the window feature and don't plan on dropping and stomping my magazines like a typical SF guy killing people for a living would do. 

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On 4/9/2017 at 4:09 PM, F16Deuce said:

I just wanted to bump up the Palmetto State Armory name.  I bought some ammo from them, and they email me their deals.  They regularly have 5.56 ammo (XM193 or 855) that breaks the $.30/round threshold that I try to seek out, many times with free shipping.  I just ordered the 420 round ammo can, 30 cents per round, including the ammo can and free shipping (Federal American Eagle, XM193).  I won't post a link, because they constantly change, but it might be worth signing up for their email flyer if you buy a lot of ammo. 

I seem to remember a few weeks back they had a deal for 10 5.56 boxes of Federal, along with 10 MagPul magazines for $120 shipped - that's $6 per box of 20 rounds and $6 per MagPul magazine, which was a heck of a deal. 

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PSA also regularly has great deals on the DSA aluminum mags.  I buy when they hit the $6.99 each sale, but they've been $5.99 at some points previous, too.

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JS, Pmags are good to go.  The issue with aluminum "GI" style mags is that any damage to the feed lips can be hard to visually detect, but can cause malfunctions.  Pmags are either broken or not broken--the polymer doesn't experience plastic deformation very much.  They can fracture, but then you can see it.  That said, they are hard to destroy. So, if you are not regularly running them over, stomping on them, or body slamming them against concrete, you should be good.  Even if you do abuse them, they are $10-15 each. 

7.62x39 is not optimized for the AR system.  There are uppers for them, but some have issues.  If you are willing to spend a little more, .300blackout gives performance pretty close to x39, runs well in short barrels or suppressed, and only requires a barrel change from the normal AR system (the case is based on 5.56). 

The 15-22 had some issues a few years back, but I haven't kept up lately.  You might want to do some research on that.  Alternately, 9mm AR pistols and carbines are gaining popularity.



 

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14 hours ago, Smokin said:

Did someone mention filing a lawsuit?  That was the first thing I thought of when I heard they were going to put that policy in place.  Hope he takes them to the cleaners and scares other companies from entering politics.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-lawsuits/oregon-man-20-sues-walmart-dicks-over-raising-gun-buying-age-idUSKCN1GI2CG

The best part is that it's Oregon.  Therefore, rulings regarding cake sales should be immediately relevant.

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