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  1. Trying to gauge if this is normal or not since I'm not a doctor who screens pilots but.... Is this a normal situation?


    It took me 9 months to get to MEPS. Dad was in the AF so all my medical files were in (AHLTA?) so I had to disclose everything. I had childhood asthma which was cleared by MEPS and a methacholine challenge test. They dug into my medical file and took issue with something I never had which was vitamin D deficiency. Had to get bloodwork for that to prove I never had it. So after that was proved and 9 months of waiting, they finally let me go to MEPS and I passed. Waiver was then sent up to the SG and they shot it back asking for ANOTHER PFT with bronchodilator and a peanut allergy test. Why are they asking for so many tests, especially after the fact when they could have asked for them before I went to MEPS like they did when they requested a methacholine challenge test? Just seems like it is one thing after the other and I can't tell if I will be good after this set of tests or they will find more stuff to test me on and I'll never officially pass MEPS. 


    Anyone have experience with this situation? Or a similar situation? 

  2. 1 hour ago, KSD said:

    Hi everyone,

    I was picked up by a ANG unit for a pilot slot in October, I can relate to the medical paperwork struggles. Tentatively I’m scheduled for MEPs this coming week finally. Can anyone let me know what to expect as far as how the process goes? I’ve reached out to my POC but have been struggling to get some of the answers. Are you supposed to dress up? Do you need to bring anything? Is it just the medical or is there any other paperwork they go through? Any help would be great!

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    Just dress business casual, or even nice jeans and a tshirt. Bring your Covi paperwork, don't forget those or they will deny you. Also bring your social security card and drivers license. You need those.


    You'll just go through the standard tests. Hearing, vision, urine, etc. 


    Overall it's pretty easy, just make sure you know what to expect with depth perception. One less battle to fight if you pass it at MEPS. Good luck. 

  3. 6 minutes ago, WannaBpilot said:

    Following up on my own process here and hopefully it will help others. I contacted my Congressperson through their website and was able to eventually connect with a Congressional Liaison who submitted an inquiry on my behalf with the NGB/SG's office. I had to provide my MEPs paperwork and physical exams, clearance letters, and rehab report (this was a letter I wrote about my rehab process as I did all of it myself, and I also detailed by current level of physical activity).

    After 6 weeks, we received a response to the Congressional Inquiry that the NGB/SG Senior Branch Provider and Medical Director reviewed my case and determined they would recommend a waiver. I haven't connected yet with my unit on this-our last waiver attempt was 1 year ago and we haven't been in contact since as my recruiter thought there was no point to try a third waiver request (and I agreed based on 2 failed attempts)-but hopefully this will lead to the official waiver approval and next steps, finally.

    The big lesson here is to not take no for an answer, even if you have to go at it alone. Also, take care of your knees while you're young... 

    That's awesome man, I love hearing stories like this. Congratulations! 

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  4. 3 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

    Anyone taking bets on how long Biden will last before Harris takes over if they win?

    The polls (that matter) are contracting again similar to 2016. So I'm confident we are going to have Trump for at least 12 more years.

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  5. 50 minutes ago, jrizzell said:

    I think we can all agree after watching those interviews that Harris is just remarkably unlikable. Her fake smiling laughter “tick” is odd and off-putting.

    She definitely has a lot of "Hillary Clinton" factor. 

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  6. 14 hours ago, EvilEagle said:

    I said all scores matter as in when I sit on hiring boards I look at every score from the tests.  If Pilot and Nav scores are great and the rest suck, I assume the applicant is lazy unless he/she has some reason that the rest of the tests didn't go well.  


    Were you being sarcastic or did you really think I was stooping to the political garbage level?  

    I'm seeing everything through a political lens right now. My bad, gotta fix that sarcasm projector. 

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  7. 6 minutes ago, EvilEagle said:

    Bad advice - all scores matter.  


    A 44 isn't the end of the world, but I'd be asking about it if I was sitting on your board.  Go rush the units you want to apply to and see how it goes.  

    Did you really just say all scores matter? That's really messed up. Pilot's scores matter and if you disagree then I'll have you banned from this forum.

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  8. Fellow defense contracting nerds,


    Do people know which defense contracting companies offer differential pay? I've heard that Lockheed Martin offers 5 years but what does that include? SERE, UPT, B-Course? I've heard Boeing offers similar as well. I'm currently with Northrop Grumman and I've been told they offer 5 years as well but need to make a few emails to confirm. Anyone have any knowledge? Would be nice to not have to switch companies last minute then get grilled for asking for this huge benefit. 

  9. Hey man, I was in the same exact boat as you were 2 years ago, minus the whole kung flu stuff. I was going through the exact same stuff. Freshly graduated from engineering, sitting at a desk job (that payed quite well) but being disillusioned with the prospect of doing that stuff for 40 years until retirement. Not knocking the engineering profession because we need those people, they make the planes after all. But a lot of people in the circuit express the same feelings as you and I. We can't stand the idea of "sitting at a desk" for our whole career when there is the option of flying for the AF. On the other hand, I can't say I agree with you on quitting your job right now. You know, with covid and all going on, even if you get selected tomorrow you are still a year out best case scenario on heading to OTS.


    Rushing for a UPT slot is really difficult, couldn't imagine how hard it is with the kung flu kicking you in the nuts. All I can say is keep pushing cause successful business built during the depression are way more impressive than business built during the boom. 


    Also, get comfortable with the waiting. I started this process back in late 2017, picked up in early 2020, and still have about a year before I even think about shipping out for UPT. Keep grinding away to get that UPT slot but don't forget to live and enjoy everyday life. Whether that be with your job, family, hobbies, or religion, don't neglect it. Because I'm sure when we are stressing over an upgrade ride or combat deployment, we are going to miss these relatively easy times where the biggest stress was boredom.


    Lastly, I would be careful about broadcasting how much of a challenge your life is. You know, and I know how hard life can be sometimes but I expressed this exact feeling in a fighter interview one time and got absolutely reemed about it in feedback and subsequent non-selection. Just keep your head down and keep grinding and your hard work will eventually pay off. Good luck man, you definitely aren't alone out here!   

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  10. 33 minutes ago, waveshaper said:

    The latest: "Air Force moves to cancel contracts for training on white privilege"

    "The Air Force is taking the first steps toward canceling any contracts for diversity and unconscious bias training that include segments on white privilege and other controversial subjects, as called for by the White House." Etc, etc, etc.


    I'd say a step in the right direction. 

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  11. 29 minutes ago, brawnie said:

    Yeah and an equal opposition argued against the electoral college in the anti-federalist papers. Just because they write “tyranny of the majority” doesn’t mean it turns out that way.

    In fact, the majority of civil rights scholars agree that the electoral college and its perpetuation is a large reason that slavery wasn’t abolished sooner and the civil war happened. What is that, tyranny of the minority?

    Change it when it doesn't work for your party, but crickets when it does? Looks like Schumer and gang might regret their decision for requiring only a simple majority for SC judge appointments. 

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  12. 1 hour ago, N730 said:

    Why can't you retake the AFOQT. Id find a way to retake that and/or your TBAS. The PCSM is a little underwhelming for fighter units.

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    I wouldn't necessarily say underwhelming. I would say the AFOQT scores are definitely a barrier for some, if not a lot of fighter units. But If he can rush and mesh really well with a unit, having that PCSM won't push his app to the trash. That's really emphasizing rushing though. I think I've only seen 1 or 2 fighter units have a PCSM requirement of 85+.

  13. For SA, I've noticed a lot of advice given on asking the squadron you interviewed at but not selected advice on a debrief and advice. Take everything with a grain of salt. The same things I did at one interview to get picked up was met with resistance at another squadron. For example, I was told that "I don't fit into fighter culture, maybe you should join the Marine Corps instead." Don't get discouraged and keep going. It's not going to get any easier from here on out, but if you grind hard and really mesh well with a squadron, then your chances will be pretty high. Good luck all!

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  14. 21 minutes ago, Prozac said:

    Wow. I know a lot’s happened since then but, wow. I seem to recall Sean Spicer very forcibly insisting that Trump’s inauguration was “the largest audience ever to witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe”. Perhaps the image above is like a Rorschach test and you see something completely different than I do. Or perhaps it is simply a couple of photos that show Trump’s inaugural crowd to be significantly smaller than previous crowds. I look at it as a clear warning that he will lie about just about anything, no matter how petty. Admittedly, this was a long time ago. More recently, Trump claimed that the Yankees had asked him to throw out the first pitch and only settled on Anthony Faucci after he declined. This was promptly refuted by the Yankees. Factcheck.org, Politifact, and Snopes all have scores of examples from the three and a half years in between these two episodes. 

    Lied about his inauguration crowd? Sure.

    Called John McCain a loser because he lost the 2008 election? Sure. 

    Promised tax cuts?  

    Quitting Paris deal? 

    Conservative judges in courts? 

    Handling ISIS? 

    Moving Israel embassy? 

    Reduce ME presence? 

    Better trade agreements? 

    Border wall progress? 

    Many major platform promises delivered. Yet the "news" focuses on the minutiae. 

    I don't care for leftist "news" media outlets who have nothing better to say than "orange man bad". Fact checking is indeed not fact checking anymore, but has become a political tool to call someone you don't agree with a liar. The fact that you can have factcheck, politifact, or snopes as sources and we can't even use fox is extremely telling of bias and dishonesty. 

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  15. 11 hours ago, Prozac said:

    How about bringing law and order back to the apocalyptic cityscapes Trump so bleakly described in his inaugural speech? He’s been president for nearly four years. The streets that were actually bleak are bleaker and law and order is, in fact breaking down in places where it was previously peaceful. Trumps response has been to fan the flames and encourage his supporters to instigate further unrest. I do not believe for a second that The current or future Trump administration will make our streets remotely safer. The chaos he insists will be the result of a Biden administration is happening now, under his watch. 

    I'll concede on what you said above because I don't have much knowledge on those subjects. If they are legitimate failures on his part then so be it, he is still a human and isn't perfect, are you? I'll let someone else chime in on those policies.


    As for the apocalyptic cities, all democrat cities, how can you say that is the federal government's fault? Those cities have been shit holes for decades, long before Trump. As far as I know, BLM and Antifa are all on the left. None of those people will be voting for Trump. He has repeatedly offered federal help for Portland and Wisconsin. Go look up what Ted Wheeler said to Trump. Go look what Gov. Evers said to Trump. 


    So let me get this straight. It is Trump's fault that the cities are burning, but when he deploys federal aid to Portland around late July, he is now a fascist? You cannot have it both ways. There is no logic in that thought. And now the left wants us to think "vote for Joe and it will all go away!" Yeah, no. That is actually called extortion. 


    A Trump supporter is executed outside of his neighborhood in Portland for being in Patriot Prayer. The gov. of Oregon blames white supremacists. Let me channel my inner leftist, "that is literally disgusting."

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