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Thanks for that answer. So if I understand your reply, even a guy who goes T-38s could be assigned a C-17? Didn't know about the 'universelly' catch all.

Old timer FAIP questions. I was a FAIP in the mid to late 70's before I got into TAC (F-4s) so know little of the dual track training process at UPT. I'm getting some questions from a grandkid about aircraft assignments as he's thinking maybe he wants to be a USAF pilot. The main question I need to answer is the scenario where a stud gets fighter/bomber qualified and goes on to the T-38. Does he already know what fighter/bomber/tanker he will fly when he gets selected for T-38s or is it just a block of those aircraft and he picks the aircraft later depending on his class standing. Thanks for any help.

Wow. I was the topic starter for this thread and didn't realize how it would balloon into 4 pages. I was just interested in whether the choice for the TX would be a two or single engine jet and if that would influence the decision. T-33s were used in the early/mid 60s and I'm not sure if students practiced ELP's (SFO's) back then, but it certainly would add a few training sorties if trained.

Thanks. I get it now. Just trying to picture what training might be required for a future single engine TX if the motor quits. I assume it would be similar.

Thanks for answering. I'm a bit confused on what ELP stands for. Is it similar to an SFO (for single engine fighters). And do the instructors practice it? Edit: if it stands for emergency landing procedures then I get it. We just called everything EP's

I'm an ancient one having trained in T-37's, T-38s and instructed in both. I'm just trying to learn a little about the present syllabus at UPT. Question: Do T-6 students/instructors practice SFO's or forced landings or is it taught to take the silk highway in case of engine failure.

Reese AFB '78 or '79 was an FCF pilot. My boss on a T-38 FCF couldn't get one engine started after shutting one down for a restart check. For some stupid reason, he still decided to do an inverted flight check, and the hydraulic cap on the good engine blew off and dumped all the fluid. So now he had one good engine, but no hydraulic pressure, on that side. Windmilling hydraulics on the other engine provided plenty of control for him to talk to homeplate and fly around for another 30 minutes before (as recommended) he proceeded to the controlled bailout area and ejected. Thankfully he was uninjured but was faulted on his judgment. Edit: I know this doesn't apply here with dual shaft failure and absolutely no hyd. pressure, but just commenting on the fact that you still fly the aircraft with decent windmilling rotation on an engine that's not working...just don't get slow.

NASA had a Tweet for spin training. They loaned it to the Test Pilot School at Edwards for the same purpose. Not sure if it's still flying but the Wiki NASA list of aircraft still shows it. If you include the world, Pakistan still trains their pilots with T-37s.

Ancient Aviator here. 20 years, FAIP, F-4s, OV-10s. Then 19 years with a major, great job, not much pressure (compared to the USAF), didn't take my work home with me, and a pretty stable life style. So what dominates my memory now? Hardly anything from the airlines. It's all about AF buddies, reunions, and BS about military flying. Wouldn't do it any other way if given the choice again.

Tons of guys did 20, then got hired by a major. It's all in the timing...and luck.

Back when I was a 38 IP (ages ago) there was only one flight where supersonic flight was intentionally flown and that was more a "wow" event and "been there, done that". Very little training value in watching the mach indicator tick over 1.0.

Seriously, do they call them 'dorms' now? I'm an old timer..went thru UPT in 1975. Dorms were college nomenclature. BOQs is what we called them. I think there were some rules for 'guests' in the rooms (which had a little kitchenette), but nobody followed them. Picked up my girl on weekends in my '69 vette and she cooked and made life more pleasurable at Willie '74-75.