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  1. Hey guys, I have a very specific question for the peanut gallery; it only applies to Reserve AGR flyers so if you're not one you can scroll on. BACKGROUND: I had significant difficulties getting my orders extended to 20 despite having been granted career status (another long story) that led to my being unable to apply for AvB under the FY20 bonus before midnight 30 Sept. Therefore, I won't be able to sign the FY21 bonus until it comes out in (I'm being told) June of '21. On the reserve side, my airframe has achieved excellent manning levels (AGR), therefore I anticipate between that and the airline situation, the bonus is going away for me in '21. This means that because of delays caused by ARPC I am liable to lose out on $140K worth of bonus, all due to bureaucratic incompetence. GET TO THE POINT: (Again, Reserve AGR Only) Does anyone know of any circumstances in which a waiver for the bonus signup cutoff requirement was granted? Has anyone lawyered up? Do you think I should after exhausting all the normal lines of effort? Just thought I'd ask the hive mind, this is a pretty huge bummer.
  2. There is a ton of confusion on PF/PF with the GI Bill, and no one knows what the hell they are talking about but I've been down this road. I have it in writing (MyPers Contact, it works well) from several offices that you can't Palace Front with an outstanding GI Bill ADSC. Data points are below, it's BS but this is what I was told, corroborated by multiple people at AFPC: Even though the document you signed to transfer benefits states that it is a "service commitment", AD Air Force "interprets" it as an ADSC. Everyone else, including the VA sees it as an agreement of any kind of service (even part-time Guard) but mother AF says otherwise. The worst part about this is that it's "a policy" for it to be an ADSC, no regulation specifically prescribes it. You may have been told (before signing; I was) that you could simply reverse the transfer of benefits and thus revert to the previous ADSC: this is false. Unless you can get it in writing that you were miscounselled by an official, it is irrevocable even if the transferees haven't used any benefits. This info was given to me and confirmed with the PC and PF offices, the Transfer of Education Benefits Office (TEB), the AFPC Help Line, and (pretty sure, don't have it right here) the ADSC shop. Reserve Personnel Center says to go ahead and Palace Front, my (lousy) in-service recruiter said same but the AD AF sees it otherwise. That being said, if you are approved PC you can continue to serve out the VA "service commitment" for the transfer without re-starting, but they have to approve (rubber stamp) that. If someone has a silver bullet please advise, I hope I'm wrong somehow. That's what I've been told, some people along the way said otherwise (have that in writing too) but it's a case of clown-assed shoes not knowing their own regulations and policies. Wasted a lot of time trying to teach them, no joy. Side note and further background: I was told the PC approval process involves a periodic board of 5: they all review your case and vote, majority rules. This likely explains why some packages are approved in weeks and others take months. They advertise 6-8 weeks, but my latest correspondence says 3-12 weeks. The PC office and others recommend keeping the memo away from personal sob stories and try to sell them on why the early release (STS) is good for the AD AF. Examples might include no PCS cost, going to a Guard/Reserve training billet that helps AD, etc. Be sure to include a hiring letter of intent from your gaining unit too.
  3. Here's what I've found: -The Transfer of Benefits office doesn't care if you serve out the ADSC on active or roll it into AGR service. Neither does the VA, nor the Reserve Education Office nor ARPC. -The AFPC (active) call center will tell you that you can or can't roll back the ADSC or serve it on AGR depending on who you reach, but it's all their own interpretation. -The only office that seems to be knowledgeable about the whole thing is the Palace Chase Office, who is very familiar with the situation and claims to have had it legal reviewed and is in line with SAF-PC's guidance when they say you cannot reverse the benefits transfer and then reverse the ADSC that came with it. Thus, the only avenue to someone trying to go AGR is to Palace Chase, and the longer you are asking for the longer your shot is. They said to make sure to write a thorough justification, have both sides of the 1288 complete and signed, and a letter of intent from the hiring unit to boost your chances. It helps to show you aren't going to jump to the airlines and already have a job lined up (if you do). Even then, they said Palace Chase results are erratic depending on who is reviewing and how saucy they feel at the moment they see your package (so to have spoken). The process is currently taking 6-8 weeks from when they receive the complete paperwork, so ramrod it through your own leadership and get it in their hands ASAP. Fire away with questions. The only office I have yet to reach is the ADSC back-shop.
  4. Well I'm just now being informed that you can revoke the transfer of benefits but it doesn't revert the ADSC (shady). This is after being told (documented on vPC) that I could just palace front and serve out the time as an AGR. I'm just starting to dig into the regs to see the actual verbiage but the agreement I signed to transfer the benefits just says it's a "service commitment", not Active Duty so the whole thing is FUBAR as far as I'm concerned but I'm afraid I'm painted into a corner and not going to be able to get out 'till next year. Good luck, let me know if you're getting different info.
  5. So are you going to Palace Front, disregarding the ADSC for GI Bill? I'm in the same boat, trying to decide between twooptions: 1. Revoke transfer, then re-transfer once on AGR orders, essentially Palace Front then re-start 4-yr clock 2. Palace Chase, hope for the best, would allow ADSC remaining to "roll into" the AGR commitment
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