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  1. On 6/13/2022 at 5:47 PM, Danger41 said:

    With the economy and all associated things with the economy in the toilet, any rumblings or furloughs or anything? Or is the retirement wave going to help stem that?

     

    On 6/14/2022 at 3:18 PM, brabus said:

    Good God those are some massive rose-colored glasses you have on. Maybe take a time out and open the aperture a little beyond how full flights currently are. I'd start with the energy sector, the stock market, highest inflation in 40 years, a ludicrous housing/rental market, etc. None of those paint a "good economy," and certainly not a good one in the near future as a likely large recession is looming.  Hope you're not out buying all your toys on credit right now.

     

    On 6/15/2022 at 10:26 AM, ViperMan said:

    That is some level 9 satire, bro.

    If it's not, well, let's just say everyone is less well off than before all this inflation hit (https://www.axios.com/2022/06/15/what-workers-really-want-raises-that-beat-inflation). People are spending more money because prices are higher and they have to. Wages are not keeping pace with price inflation (https://news.wttw.com/2022/06/08/inflation-overpowers-city-minimum-wage-hike).

    Also, logic that says "because we're full, it's all good" ignores all the scheduling optimization that goes into creating an airline schedule. Remember, all seven major US airlines have reduced their flying this summer. The reason is immaterial. Delta could fly one line per day, and every single seat would be filled. That has nothing to do with the prevailing economic undercurrent.

    🤣 I'd almost forgotten about the recession that was always just around the corner.

    Legitimate congrats on the contracts and the profit sharing, gents!

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  2. 8 hours ago, Negatory said:

    The whataboutism is amazing. I, for one, find the thing most ironic in these discussions to be the title of this thread. Today, in hypocrisy, you defend someone’s actions just because they are a Republican.

    Also, the President can not unilaterally declassify anything. Notable exceptions include nuclear data, waived data, and intelligence agent locations, among others. Oh, and there’s a process for it, you don’t just get to say “I DECLARE UNCLASSIFIED” like Michael Scott.

    Is it that amazing though? These are the same guys who quibble in a debrief, or maybe they hold it down a little but definitely whip out the quibbling in the bar. "Sure, I went inside of MAR and took missile to the face, but we got a late dec, and #1 was all over the place, and the RTO didn't even acknowledge #3's shot. Total bullshit!" Those clowns exist in every squadron. The people who are quibbling about Hillary or Hunter Biden, or planted documents, when whole cartons of classified are on the loose? They're all the same person.

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  3. 21 hours ago, Danger41 said:

    With the economy and all associated things with the economy in the toilet, any rumblings or furloughs or anything? Or is the retirement wave going to help stem that?

    Wait, what? It is? Unemployment is at record lows. Personal income is up month over month, as is disposable income, as is consumer spending. Our load factors are back to pre-Covid levels if not higher. We're often full, and we've been leaving non-revs behind at least half the time.

    What's going on in your world that has the economy in the toilet where you live?

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  4. 10 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

    I am sorry but you are straight up regurgitating the DNC talking points that spew out of the White House..."Putin Price Hike"...Come on Man.

    You make a good argument, but it's also comical that you call someone out for "regurgitating talking points" when you plagiarized the American Petroleum Institute's website, bullet point by bullet point, without attributing a word of it as anyone's other than your own.

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  5. 2 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

    Hold up... Define efficacy. Because it was once postulated that the vaccine stopped hospitalizations, deaths, and transmission. In fact when everyone was high on the nearly release vaccine euphoria, 99% effective was often cited.

     

    We now know the vaccine has very limited ability to reduce transmission. And the protection against Alpha and Delta have not carried over to omicron in the same way.

     

    So yeah, it works, so long as you redefine "works" in a way that no longer has much to do with military necessity.

    Here's the source I cited above showing vaccine efficacy. You can infer from that what you will. I never said I was in favor of vaccine mandates, only that they're pretty plainly lawful orders.

    The only argument that I'm putting forth is that if you don't want to follow orders, you should be shown the door, and in this case, without prejudice.

     

  6. 6 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

    what about CONTINUING to order a vax that is PROVEN to not be effective?

    the military member is NOT protected by taking this vax. how about that?!

    this is a pure MONEY GRAB by big pharma....a industry that only a few years ago was the target of the left, but MAGICALLY now is the medical jesus of all leftists and "critical thinkers"

    The strange punctuation and capitalization of random words gives your post somewhat of a National Enquirer feel. Good stuff. 

    Anyway, the vaccine has not been proven to lack efficacy. I'm not going to bother asking you to cite a source, because I know you can't. But in the spirit of facts, here's my source.

     

    3 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

    doesn't matter the vax has been proven to not work. the requirement should be dropped immediately. if other countries have a problem with that then maybe we shouldn't be "deployed" to their in the first place

    You might have a point, wanting the requirement to be dropped. But until they drop it, it's still an order, a lawful one at that. We don't get to cherry-pick which lawful orders we follow. Otherwise we could just call them suggestions. 

    And in a strange turn of events, we also don't get to decide what countries we deploy to. I kept telling my last commander that we should deploy to Tahiti, but it fell on deaf ears and we ended up in Afghanistan. 

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  7. 2 hours ago, FLEA said:

    Let's take all of the assumptions in your first paragraph to be true, then that order wouldn't be a lawful order because it lacks military neccesity. All orders have to have military neccesity, regardless of the context. 

    That's a pretty high bar to clear. What about off-limits locales in town? Double hearing protection required? Reflective belts? Flu vaccine? Buddy requirements downtown on a TDY? E-4s and below can't drive cars? We have to work on Sundays, my holy day of rest?

    That's all really subjective. Ordering a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic doesn't break the noise threshold in terms of military necessity. This vaccine for this virus looks like a gross overreaction in hindsight. Sort of like the anthrax vaccine. Or smallpox for that matter. But here we are, and those who chose to disobey what's pretty plainly a lawful order, should get a handshake, a litho, and a DD-214.

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  8. 2 hours ago, brabus said:

    @Waingro Cutting off the nose to spite the face is all that is. This wasn’t a refusal to go to war and do their jobs. Leaders and problem solvers don’t blindly think in black and white, but that’s exactly what this line of thought is. “Leaders” who are incapable of critical thought  and just “read the teleprompter” are a bad thing.

    I don't disagree, but expecting wing leadership to buck a SECDEF directive is some higher-level fantasy thinking. 

  9. 23 hours ago, Nineline said:

    Just saw an official looking memorandum signed by 19AF/CC (AETC) directing that those whose religious accommodation request and subsequent appeal denial for the COVID vaccine be immediately grounded.

    Furthermore, if the member doesn't request retirement or separation within 5 days of the appeal denial then they will also be immediately suspended from receiving AvIP and any aviation bonus in addition to being grounded.

    19AF/CC has already prohibited all TDYs for unvaccinated personnel prior to this new policy.

    Apparently the "pilot crisis" can't be too bad if they're willing to cut UPT and FTU production by grounding AETC IPs for refraining from a vaccine that has proven to not be the "miracle vaccine" that it was initially advertised as.

    Edited to add: Unvaxxed AETC IPs have been flying the line with and alongside like their vaxxed counterparts for over 6 months now with absolutely no issues whatsover.  There is no logical argument to ground these people from flying while still allowing them to work and sim in close proximity to everyone else.  This policy is completely about power and has zero to do with protecting people or making the workplace safer.

    --Break, break--

    How come no one is asking why it's been almost a year since the Comrinaty was approved and we still have no FDA approved vaccine available in the U.S.?  Could it be that Pfizer doesn't want to be liable for any lawsuits since they are protected from such under the EUA?  If so, why would they be worried about lawsuits if the vaccine is indeed safe and effective?

    -9-

    I'll bite. Good.

    And let's go into this assuming that the effects of the virus are overblown, and that the vaccine was overpromised and underdelivered. And that this isn't in fact a readiness issue.

    All of that aside, a segment of the population decided to ignore a military order. It shouldn't matter if they were first-term Airmen handing out volleyballs, or AETC instructor pilots. Either way, their actions are not compatible with military service in an all-volunteer force. They should be shown the door, honorably. Not punitively. Absolve all ADSCs and bonus repayments, just a quick date of separation and an honorable discharge. Nobody is forced to be here.

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  10. 4 hours ago, uhhello said:

    At my kids middle school track meet there were more than two hands worth of kids running sprints/long distances in masks.  Outside track.   We haven't had a mask requirement in school here for almost a year now.  We've messed up a giant chunk of the population.  

     

    Have a coworker who's sibling's family have isolated since this kicked off years ago.  Both work from home with amazon and IBM.  Groceries are delivered and disenfected.  They have two toddlers who haven't been outside the home for other than doctors visits.  They are leaving the house next week to drive to Cali so there toddlers can be part of the vaccine study on under 5's.  

    I happily don't wear a mask unless it's absolutely a requirement to do something (air travel, etc.) 

    That said, I constantly hear your complaint from the same crowd who have long preached that it didn't matter what anyone else does, so long as they didn't force masks or vaccines on anyone else. Ted Cruz, our favorite Canadian-turned-Texan, recently went on a tirade against Mr. T of all people, because Mr. T publicly said he was going to continue to social distance. Ted Cruz apparently still cares, and it seems like you really do care, a lot, about what other people around you are doing.

    I saw westerners in Kabul, a decade ago, exercising outdoors with masks on (very poor air quality, leaded gas in shitty generators, etc.) While I found that precaution excessive, it didn't bother me to the point that I'd go online and rail against it. If a middle-schooler wants to run a race in a mask, or get a dumb haircut, or wear stupid clothes, then so be it.

     

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    On 3/7/2022 at 10:26 PM, Waingro said:

    I feel sorry for anyone still falls for this tribal nonsense. What a ridiculous thing to buy into. I can't imagine harboring this much disdain for my fellow Americans. 

    On 3/8/2022 at 7:19 AM, HeloDude said:

    Really?  Progressives literally think that requiring an ID to vote is “Jim Crow 2.0”.

    Go back to the first thing I said. Your response is more tribal nonsense. I've never met any of these two-dimensional people in real life.

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  12. 12 minutes ago, FLEA said:

    Its an observation. If you're going to dismiss it as tribal nonsense, extrapolate. Why do you think democrats would significantly poll differently? 

    Because people aren't two-dimensional caricatures. There are more than two different belief systems out there. Subscribing to a dialogue that can't deviate from a binary solution is asinine.

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  13. 41 minutes ago, FLEA said:

    https://newsworldupdate.com/politics/more-republicans-than-democrats-would-stay-and-fight-if-what-happened-in-ukraine-occurred-in-us-poll/

     

    BLUF: if the US were in the exact same situation as the Ukraine, the majority of Republicans would defend the country while the majority of Democrats flee. 

     

    I feel sorry for anyone still falls for this tribal nonsense. What a ridiculous thing to buy into. I can't imagine harboring this much disdain for my fellow Americans. 

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  14. 8 hours ago, goingkinetic said:

    Keystone pipeline ring a bell? My grandfather used to own an oil well in Los Angeles. He sold it to the city for $1 because it wasn’t profitable due to production declines. Unused oil leases doesn’t equate to profitable production. However, with oil climbing this high I bet you start seeing some of those unused leases go back into production.

    Keystone pipeline sends about 850K BBL a day. Or did you mean the Keystone XL? I'm not too sad about Canadian product having to take the long way to refineries; the XL would have helped out Canada for sure, not a lot of impact for the U.S.

    The post from nsplayr above is way more comprehensive, but domestic crude production is presently higher than it was at the beginning of Trump's presidency (by a large amount) and also at the end of Trump's presidency (source).

    So again, which executive branch energy policy is hurting us right now? I'm not the biggest Biden fan, but I just don't see that he's the boogeyman here.

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  15. 7 hours ago, goingkinetic said:

    I bet it hits $200 before the administration backtracks on its energy policy.

    Which policies, specifically? There are a shitload of oil leases that are unused, and a whole lot of wells that aren't producing. Which was the case both before the Biden administration, and now today. I'd be more eager to criticize any executive branch energy policy if we were actually operating anywhere near capacity, and were somehow hamstrung because of it.

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  16. 53 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

    rep kinzinger is a total JOKE

    Using capital letters really lends credibility to your arguments. You're a huge Paul Harvey fan too, aren't you? Is your Facebook page filled with a bunch of stupid shít that ends with "I bet I can't get 5 followers to share this!" while containing exactly zero percent correct information? How many people out there claim you as their senile uncle who sends them email forwards about Q-Anon?  😂 

    54 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

    looking forward to him being defeated

    By whom? Seriously, I'm curious who you think he's running against. 

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  17. 5 minutes ago, tac airlifter said:

    Sure, you missed the quote from Ukraine’s president saying he wanted more than blankets from the aide package.  The one I highlighted in my link.

    Blankets clearly weren’t all that was in the 2014 non-lethal aide package, but he was dissatisfied with the lack of helpful support which he said included blankets. 

    Personally I think we stop nitpicking past mistakes & focus on the present— making policy decisions which maximize dead Russians while staying below the threshold of starting WW3.

    Oh, when the previous poster said that blankets were what cost Ukraine the Crimea, I didn't realize we were speaking in hyperbole. The way he wrote it, it sounded like he was making an actual assertion and actually believed the line about blankets to be true and correct.

    Otherwise yeah, it sure looks like lethal assistance should have been on the table years earlier. And yes, and the present fight should be the focus. Seeing the Russian military failures to date has been a pleasant surprise.

  18. 2 minutes ago, Prozac said:

    Does it really matter? The Obama admin refused lethal aid and, in retrospect, that was a mistake. His successor’s attempt to extort political favors in exchange for weapons was a moral abomination, even if weaponry eventually made it to the country. I watched Mitt Romney do an interview on CNN this morning & even that network’s assessment was that he was right and Obama was wrong in 2012. The point is that there is plenty of blame to go around for how we ended up here. None of it matters at this point. We are at a watershed moment in Europe’s history and indeed the World’s. The only thing that matters now is how we move forward from here. This is bigger than a single president or which party happens to hold power at the moment. The choices we make now will affect multiple administrations for years to come, and we need to implement coherent policies that will withstand and transcend political bickering. 

    Sure it matters. A poster overtly stated that sending blankets ended up costing Ukraine possession of Crimea. A pretty bold claim, so I don't think it's too much to ask for verification. Especially since the assertion was made as a defense of The Former Guy withholding security assistance resources because of a personal vendetta. 

    There are good arguments about whether or not the Obama administration should have done more sooner with respect to lethal weaponry. History and hindsight sure make it look that way. But words matter, and the previous poster wanted to play some "whataboutism roulette" and lost. 

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  19. 41 minutes ago, tac airlifter said:

    That's weird, I read the whole article and only found the citation pasted below. I'm sure I missed it, can you point me to the verbiage in the article you posted that said we were providing blankets?

    "What the White House offered was a military aid package that will provide body armor, helmets, vehicles, night and thermal vision devices, advanced radios, patrol boats, counter-mortar radars, rations, tents and uniforms."

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  20. 14 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

    And yet that aid, to include weapons, got there.  And Russia didn't take any parts of Ukraine then.

    Unlike the last time Biden was point man for Ukraine and that administration sent blankets.  That cost Ukraine Crimea.  So far, Biden's given the ok to "a limited incursion." As well as cashing various 10% checks payable to "the big guy" from Hunter's Ukrainian adventures.

    So...I'll take what are anti-tank rounds for a $1000 over What are blankies for $500.

    Now do Afghanistan withdrawal planning...

    Go with a source for blankets. Any one source. 

  21. 1 hour ago, Smokin said:

    Maybe even the US could chip in something eventually when Biden gets back from vacation/cryo treatments.  If Putin wants to dig in, he might find himself in serious trouble at home.

    So long as he doesn't withhold $400m worth of anti-tank weaponry to Zelenskyy in exchange for political dirt, it'll be better than last time around. 

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  22. 44 minutes ago, Buddy Spike said:

    Or, it goes to show how easy it is to create mythology in 2022 and people will really believe anything no matter how outlandish.

    The reality is likely that most of the Ukrainian kills have been through SAMs/Manpads and most of their air force was destroyed on the ground with very few if any air to air kills.

    Nailed it. 

     

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  23. 39 minutes ago, Danger41 said:

    I was discussing this at work the other day and one of our intel guys who is super sharp was blown away at the feasibility of the “Ghost of Kyiv” based on capes of a Ukrainian Fulcrum vs Russian jets (radars, weapons, etc). All valid points but it truly goes to show that weapons and all of that are important, but the people using them are what truly matter. Kind of like John Boyd using the E-M theory and stating that an F-4 could never beat a MiG in a dogfight because the charts showed it performed worse. I doubt that story (Ghost) is true, but I know for certain that the Ukrainian military/people have shown one hell of a fighting spirit. It makes the Afghan military really look like shit bags with all of that tech and training they got over 2 decades just fold.

    That's a lot to extrapolate from what started as a reddit post using video game graphics. I like the propaganda value, but engaging in intel analysis with it is a little over the top. 

  24. 1 hour ago, SpeedOfHeat said:

    Agree 100%.  It is fundamentally about the mandates.  The rage is because people cannot just do what they want.

    We're supposed to, stupidly and for no reason at this point, wear a mask on base.

    My kids, likewise, are forced to wear one at school for no reason. 

    As soon as the mandates go away, I'm good.  Other people can wear whatever they want.  I know many people will, while ironically claiming to "follow the science," continue masking no matter what.  That's fine.  Just leave me out of it.

    My story about the kid in center field is just to highlight the mental impact.  Billy can do whatever he wants.  I just find it sad, and an indication of the larger problem that all the people chanting "it's just a mask, what's the big deal???" aren't understanding.  Billy is wearing a mask because he's developed an irrational fear.  Nothing I can do about it at this point, except advocate for lifting of the mandates so more kids don't think they need a mask... while outside.... and while double vaccinated.... and while healthy with no underlying conditions.

    For the people wearing cloth or surgical masks that still think it offers them protection, I actually like it.  It let's me know right away that they're really stupid.  Goes with the "...here's your sign" skit.  So I'm oddly in favor of that sort of self identification continuing. 

    Except, you were literally just complaining about other people's independent decisions.

    "My favorite is the people riding bikes or, ...I saw this a couple weeks ago...., SKIING while wearing a surgical mask. "

    Like MCO said, people in Japan have been wearing masks in public long before covid. You're complaining about mandates - yet you seem to feel pretty strongly about what choices other people make for themselves. Odd. 

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