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I think it's unusual for any line Colonel to sit on more than one board in a career. Perhaps in specialty AFSCs. Not permitted to disclose any Secaf instructions (specifically), but all boards have 'em, and comparing results demographics year to year leads me to believe you may be making the right assumption. I.E. if there were 9 APZ promotions on each of the Cy11,12 O4 boards, then 68 APZ promotions on each of the Cy13,14 boards...then something is different about the way the board is scoring APZ records...or the promotion opportunity % is different...or there's something special about how the board treated those individual officer's records.

I dunno. BPZ / IPZ / APZ has never meant much to me. I got promoted on time, every time. Championed and got DPs for some of my guys on every recent board...in every zone. Stellar is stellar Strong is strong OK is OK What's "zone" got to do with documented duty performance? In my book, nothing. Others think differently, so YMMV.

Your SR should do your PRF IAW MAJCOM guidance. The SR normally delegates the initial draft to Sq/cc. You may be asked for inputs by your flt/cc. In creating the PRFs, I saw it done/ did it the pretty much the same way from 2000-2015: IAW an AFPC / MAJCOM message, about 60 days prior to the board, the drafts were due for the groups to the wing (or their equiv positions on staff). They were tweaked or re-written and run thru admin review, then presented to the SR, along with each officers entire record. The SR would dedicate hours to read each record, any accompanying push notes, and make any changes to each and every PRF. Then they went off to MLR and DPS were awarded, the forms signed by the SR, then they went to AFPC for the board and you got your copy 30 days prior to the board. (Ps: never get the rep as a good OPR or PRF writer...that stink never rubs off and as a result I probably redid a thousand decorations, OPRs and PRFs that werent on my folks outside the ones I did during my two wing exec tours). I can only speak for myself, but yes, I read every word of every record. My technique: The big screen monitor holds three "electronic" stacks of paper on the screen for each record, appopriately magnified for our geriatric eyes.. On the right, the PRF and all OPRs. In the center, decorations and "other stuff" like a-15 or lors. On the left, the DQHB and letters to the board. I'd open a record and start with the surf/dqhb. Then move to the middle and read the decorations. Finally, flip to the back of the stack and read OPRs earliest to latest. Only then world I read the PRF and score the record. Bottom line: it's all important, not just the surf or the PRF.

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I'll try to explain: I'm not talking about Palace chase type programs. Look, you volunteered to serve for your ADSC, if you don't have a humanitarian/medical reason for getting out early, you're trying to renege on your end of the deal, and that's not cool. It's also not cool for the AF to renege on their end of the deal (rotc recat, tami21, stoploss etc). Is it widely viewed as acceptable behavior in ARC/airlines/non-flying civilian orgs/real graduate schools to not keep your word? Ways to get out early: fail PT tests, commit a crime, refuse a deployment, malinger, violate a sufficient number of standards over time, choose not to upgrade from wingman or copilot, bust lots of check rides or cheat on tests, take leave in Colorado and smoke dope, say something lewd and degrading to fellow airmen in every staff meeting, etc. All of those ways will result in discipline first, then a less-than-glowing OPR on your way out the door. Now, to what audience will such an OPR be appealing and amusing? This line of thinking is one of the effects of being a dumbass. You're right, there is life after the AF, and it comes quickly...so serve ably and professionally as you agreed to, take advanatge of the opportunities presented to you, always take care of your airmen, then press on to ARC or NASA or corporate or blogger land or wherever with the admiration and gratitude of your fellow airmen. If you're so unsatisfied as to need to change careers right now, go read up on how to separate, then resign your commission in writing to your commander, take whatever lumps come your way and move on. Look at any board's stats: DPs are never 100% promoted...its always 98-99%. Usually, that's due to stuff in the record that occurs late in the cycle like new article 15 or criminal indictment, or don't promote me letters, or occasionally, a record that doesn't justify a the DP but the SR gave it to him anyway. These situations are NOT common and you'd know it if you were in one of them. Similarly, once in a while there is a DNP that gets promoted. They will value things the board doesnt, or vice versa. Hypothetical Example: a rescue officer was APZ with no strats on a weak DNP PRF. But, on his poorly written OPRs, he had 14 saves, 9 in combat, a BSM with valor, and two purple hearts, and fairly normal line career progression (but no schoolhouse, or exec or aide or staff tours), and was in a stressed career field. His 2nd to most recent OPR was a referral for off base DUI (and the reason for the DNP), but the LOR & rebuttal in the record confirmed he only got a reckless driving citation, not a DUI. The board valued his experiences, recognized the rehabilitative nature of the discipline he received (good OPR after the bad one) and scored him much higher than the SR obviously did, and he made the list. The board thought his experiences would lead to him being a very effective future combat and peacetime leader of airmen. This kind of situation is also not common. There's a lot more to the board process than just a quick look at the PRF, which is merely a recommendation by the SR. Every OPR, every medal citation, every document in the record is read and assessed. Variances in scores between panel members are verbally discussed...sometimes for a very long time...I remember one that we tabled twice during the day and probably spent close to an hour discussing late into the evening. We spend two weeks doing this process, and get pretty good at assessing future potential from the records. Finally, I'd prefer if you asked questions, but keep throwing spears and making snide comments if you want--it's a flyers God-given right after all. My skin is thick. I'm happy with my performance and career path and results, and I thought some of you might find these perspectives useful. LJ

True. But at the time, my opinion was the one that mattered... The board didn't see any fit test scores themselves...but we saw OPRs. But the ramifications of a failure after OPR closeout (lor, etc) could probably be referenced on the PRF if the SR wanted to. Look, if folks are trying to get out prior to their ADSC by "failing to get promoted x2" there are many ways...but none of them reflect well on you to any audience.

Any "don't promote me" letter that didn't cite humanitarian reasons.

Lol...you're not far off!!! Lots of opinions. Lots of discussion for each and every split and unusual situation (DPs undergoing discipline, DNPs 5APZ with fantastic records and awards/decs and real leadership in the record, solid records with great combat experiences but mediocre SR strats, etc) . So, yeah, kinda like that.

And finally, to the poster who asked about writing a do not promote me letter in some thread: my panel had several, some we honored, some we ignored...the ones with true humanitarian reasons were honored. The others were seen as "I quit!" whining, and if the record otherwise merited it, those folks got put on the promotion list. In this way, as we were instructed by Secaf, the Best Qualified got promoted...not just the best qualified of those that wanted it. Finally, senior raters were sometimes ignored: DPs didn't make the cut, etc If you're planning to write a letter, tell your commander before your PRF is written. Don't know your circumstances, but turning down lt col is a tough call...hope it works out for you!

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Im deathly allergic to pennicillin and/or sulfa...served 24 yrs with no issues, no waivers, no problems. Recommend checking "deaddebate's" sign block, read all you can in waiver guides and afi48-123 re: your specific issue. Then re-attack.

1) you miss the point: it's precisely BECAUSE people have a basic right to life that they then are enabled by 2A to defend their right to life against anyone--especially gun toting thugs 2) it's not paranoia, it's reality--the world is a dangerous place and there's nothing as dangerous as a person who wishes you harm. Better to be vigilant. Go redo your anti terrorism CBT...this time read ALL the examples....the threat is real. I'll caveat with some people are idiots when it comes to carrying. 3) perhaps someone armed at the scene could've prevented further bloodshed. We'll never know. I'll bet there are three people who'd choose to go there armed if they knew in advance what was going down. Since we don't know, it's better to be prepared. 4) you may be right that no one could stop him...but why restrict my right to try to defend my life on equal terms when confronted like that? Besides, he could've chosen a bat, knife, grenade, suicide vest, axe, car, whatever...

The one with the cheapest fare headed where I need to go. I'm loyal only to my wallet. (Sort of)

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Standard answer: Don't join reserves or guard. Be a straight A college student in a degree you're interested in, don't break any laws, chase skirts, have fun, get slot, profit.

Which is why the AF should go with six-year post UPT ADSCs and abolish the bonus. /derail

10 seconds to google "FAA NPRM mil competency" http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/orl/local_more/media/dpe/Jex%20B%20-%20Mil%20Comp%20Certification.pdf All FAA rule changes exist in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, published for comment in the federal register.

2! I was at recurrent sim training 4 hrs from home when the specialist called to say my test results were back and I needed to come in to the office. I had to drag the Dx out of her over the phone...spent a few minutes in disbelief and shock...then called my wife first, then my Flt doc. Flt doc said I was instantly DNIF, but call her back in an hour. An hour later, from the road, I called and she had the surgeons and oncologists appts set up for me for the next day! She also started my waiver package and continued working on it after she deployed. Long story short: no MEB, waiver approved in minimum time: day 2 to approval: 5.69 months. Flt docs are your friend...they want you to 1) live a long time, 2) serve your country in your chosen profession, 3) fly cool jets...in that order.

Back in the mid-90s, the AF was (gasp!) having issues with rated retention, on the heels of the "feet on the ramp policy" which administratively GROUNDED any pilot who didn't take the bonus. The AMC/CC issued a series of "aircrew retention" NOTAMS--one of which PROMISED that the AF would get FAA -designated examiners for each MDS (think the OG Stan/Eval)...and set up certified testing centers at each base. When you did your first recurring IP check (assuming you had your hours) your flight doc would give you your Class I, and OG would test you, and your check ride would count as your practical...and the OG Stan/Eval guy would write you your ticket. Then they reneged on the whole deal, stopped getting Flt docs their AME cert, stopped the OG designated examiner program, stopped the whole program...and started the "global ready aircraft commander" program instead. But they did permit FAA examiners to ride on USAF aircraft, so a bunch of folks got their ATP that way...