Stitch

Can't wait to see this in sequins, pearls and shiny buttons. YGBSM

That thing is STILL there? It was in the exact same "junk yard" when I PCS'd out of Eddies for Nellis in Jan 1990. So I don't think they're in any big hurry to do anythng with it. OBTW, isn't that "junk yard some sort of "holding pen" for exhibts for the Eddie's Flight Test Museum? At least that's what I remember, but that was a good 20 yrs and many brain cells ago.

Are you f*cking serious? If TIB came to town there's no f*cking way I would tell anyone. I would never want anybody I know to assoiciate my 20+ years of service on mid/swing shift, deployments, TDYs, exercises, etc... mainitaining/servicing/launching/recovering jets in all weather and at all hours to make the mission happen assoicated with that assbaggery. What a f*cking disgrace. As far as accomplishing a "such a feat" I guess aircrews flying literally half way around the world in cramped cockpits putting bombs on target, airlift crews landing on dirt runways wearing NVGs behind enemy lines, Wild Weasel guys hanging their asses out as live bait to kill radar sites so everyone else can have a pleasent SAM free day and Rescue guys landing helos in hot LZ's to medivac wounded warriors can't compare to the awesomeness that is TIB. The AF mission is to travel to distant lands, find the bad guys, kill them and break their sh*t. If you wanna sing/dance etc... then seperate; I'm sure some cruise line is hiring.

AT-6B That'd be cool. Enforcer would be cool too. Just put a second seat in the PA-48, just like those Mustangs that have been modded for a back seat. Ya gotta build em up from the scratch anyway. That would be bad-ass. As a tail dragger it be able to take crappy fields better than a tri-gear airplane. As far as LiMA goes, have Cessna crank out a bunch of 206 Stationair's sounds like that would work too. Or what about the Quest Kodiak check em out at http://questaircraft.com Just my .02 FWIW ~ Stitch

That's f*cking awesome! Wish I'd have read that years ago and we could have wiped the Top-3 off the face of the earth with all the MX SNCOs. And then do the same with the "Focus 56" goobers (E-5s and -6s, SSgts & TSgts) I knew the perfect guy for that job. He would have won by a freaking landslide! Destroy the nonners pet projects from within! Sorta like what's happening to the DoD, but on a smaller scale. Nonner: noun, 1. non-sortie producer, one who does not fix, launch, recover jets nor is in the sortie production chain in any shape or form. 2. MX speak for shoe.

About 1/3 of the way through it, awesome. Good account of what the SF (and I mean Special Forces, not the Sky Cops) did on horseback, with the aid of the locals, in the mountains of Afganistan in late 2001. Fighting a 21st century war under 3rd centruy conditions. UFB. To the Green Berets

To our Brit friends...

My turn, These asshats came to Kunsan right before X-Mas in 1992. I'm walking down the street as they get off the bus from Osan and go into the rec center and no-shit, they have cops blocking off the sidewalk so no one breaks/interrupts thru their line. A warning sign I’m to dumb to catch. So later, like stupid shits me and another guy went to the show which was in the phase dock (which those guys had to clean the crap out of for DAYS in order to get the TIB seal of approval). Tried to get a good spot on top of some B-4 stands like you see guys in all those old USO shows from WWII to Vietnam. Wasn't a bad spot until some SP dill weed kicked us off of them because "we could get hurt". Funny, spent hours on-the-job on those things and nobody could give a crap. So pissed off as we were we're out on the hangar floor with the shoes and other assorted dweebs and the show starts (you'd think it was The Who or somebody good judging by the cheering). Then about a half a second into the first number, it hits me like a ton of bricks, and I realize that these goobers are getting a USAF paycheck to sing, dance, and act like God's gift to entertainment. Meanwhile, me and everyone else on the sortie generation side of the world work our asses off on 12+ hours shifts in all weather to put jets in the sky DOING THE MISSION. Then add in all the asspain the Phase boys went through getting kicked out of their hangar and thereby ######ing up the pahse flow for this crap. So we did what any self respecting weapons troops would do; walked out and went to A-Town there we drank a shitload of beer and numerous Soju based intoxicants while watching the juicy girls do their thing. TIB bullshit is nothing new, its as old as TIB itself. Edit cause I left something out.

Mission Accomplished!

Just a thread bump so we can all enjoy bashing on TIB all over again!

It's lazy assclowns like that and stat chasing Pro-Supers that give ALL of maintenance a bad name. And to chime in with MKopack there are published limts to which panels and how many fasteners are permitted to be missing but a jet should never have to fly that way. There are maintainers out there that give a rats ass about the jet and those flying them. But not to the point of this Lucerno guy.

There were a dozen or so [lot buy] for sale on barnstormers dot net about a month ago, going for something like $1.5 Mil for the whole deal. The listing is gone now, must have sold. Too bad there gone, someone here could have bought em' up, fixed em' up then become a contractor to Big Blue so Pred/Reaper dudes could fly real jets to keep their skills up just like the old ACES program. "BaseOps Aviation Services... Providing Real Jets to Guys Banished to the Land of UAS" Sure it would never happen, but then again Big Blue spends all kinds of money on crazy stuff; like 48" plasma screens for restrooms. So never say never again... or so said Mr. Bond.

U... F... B... Uber shoe in the larve stage. Saluting an unoccupied parked car... where do these people come from?

Just wait until they ask if you'd like a bowl of roasted peanuts... and not pronounce the "t". Just try not to kick thier butts, if you're not laughing yours off.

Godspeed sir. Thank you for your service to our country. Rest in Peace.

And so it continues... http://www.military.com/news/article/us-na...l=1186032325324

Classic. We must really have our sh*t together over there to spare folks for this nonsense. How many dudes pulling 12+ hour shifts on the flight line so some slacker could have this dog and pony show. I can see the buttet statement now: "Organized Opeation Uniform what the fvck ever; provided immeasurable enjoyment for shoes to get wothless bullets themselves modeling old ass uniforms rather that doing their actual jobs" Awesome to see sortie generation is taking a backseat to this crap. To those of you who are still in the fight fixin and flying To the shoes

Yup, 40 lbs overweight and wearing the obligatory micro-mini Speedo for total gross out effect no less… take up a collection, someone would do it just for laughs if nothing else.

That makes perfect AF sense. Shove a bunch of Eagles on BOI's limited ramp space, thow in airline and GA traffic & limited billeting. While Mtn Home is another 40 miles up the road with a whole wing of Eagles (C's & E's) and the support infastructure (HUGE ramp, parts, back shops, etc...) On the other hand, downtown scene after dark in Boise can be pretty good...

/ Just had a brief on this from the VA yesterday... He can "convert" from the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB, Chapter 30) to the 9/11 GI Bill (Chapter 33). However, he can only take whatever benefits he has left on his MGIB over to the 9/11, and once you go 9/11 you can go back to MGIB. Chapter 33 is an awesome deal in many ways but doesn't pay for some things that MGIB will; flight training for example. Of course not a big deal for "Mr. The Kayla" but what about wife/kids? See the VA website for complete details. Yes, you can pass 9/11 educational benefits to wife/kids, but you have to be on active duty on the day the 9/11 GI bill kicks in (Aug 09). You can even give X% to wife and Y% to kid(s) As said, the 9/11 bill kicks in Aug 09 and the VA is still tying up lose ends and DoD and the individual services get their hands in the mix as well so it'll be some time before (hopefully NLT August) to get this sorted out. Stay tuned for further developments...

It's only a matter of time; don't give the shoes that troll this thread any ideas. I remember seeing something at PSAB years ago that said that "proper wear of the uniform" meant sleeves down and buttoned. So the idea has been floated before. And as far as finding SNCOs to "police" for 36-29... chow my hog violations where do they find these guys? It sure as hell wasn't the AMUs, phase dock, backshops or bomb dump! Unless it was some dipsh*t who wanted out of maintenance and into a non-flightline related job such as PME instructor, base career advisor or some other stupid job. I spent 24 years as a maintainer and you've never seen such a great collection of hardworking, homeless looking but within 35-10 dudes in your life. (Yes I said 35-10! Old guys clue in the new) To show the extremes some maintainers will go to escape shoe silliness I knew a guy who at 18+ years was tagged with non-vol recruiter duty. Before the non-vol letter came down all he had to do was extend for 18 or so months to retire. Then the non-vol recruiter duty came down; he was so determined NOT to be a recruiter that he was actually going to chuck his retirement to avoid the job. It took the MX Gp CC to get this guy off the shoes non-vol list, so he could do his last 18 months and get into the check-of-the-month club. Hell, when I was in Alaska back when maintainers were under the flying squadrons the OPS group CC said that he didn't care what the maintainers wore as long as it kept them warm. The sole ROE was that said "optional" clothing wasn't to be worn off the flightline. Well guess what, everyone did a damn good job of following that rule. I'd bet if some CC tried that today he'd be sent to a REMF "re-education" complex to be "shown the light". Oh wait isn't that what PME is for? Edited because I not spell so good.

RIP

Another American Icon makes his fini flight. Godspeed sir you will be missed. Loved how he could work the sponsors into the news stories… “The victim’s car windows were smashed in with a large claw hammer. And if you need a good claw hammer visit your local True Value hardware store…”

RIP brother