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ViperStud

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  1. 7 hours ago, DSG said:

    That being said, quite a lot of citizens were slaughtered in the war to deny the South its self-determination, as I seem to recall.  It's so funny to watch conservatives abandon that one like rats on a sinking galleon in the last 5 years.

    Holy shit I didn’t think this kind of anti-American stupidity still existed. Please, expand on these beliefs. 

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  2. 20 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

    Words

    Correct, I am 💯 belittling dudes who hide in AETC while simultaneously burying their head in the sand WRT current ops and playing apologist for everything America does.

    It’s possible to be an instructor and stay relevant. That’s what I, and so many bros at my unit, have done. I’m also accruing airline seniority while I do it. I’m happy AF, thanks, mostly because I’m not a one-trick pony. 
     

    ETA: Pride in the success of our allies does not equal blood thirst. You live in a world of false dichotomies where the truth must boil down to a bumper sticker slogan. Improve your critical thinking and communication skills if you want to have meaningful adult conversations. 

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    8 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

    tell me more about these brave TDYs to Germany! omfg 🤣

    You were the one literally scoffing, and laughing, at dudes contributing to current ops. If you’re content burying yourself in trainers, good for you - but belittling those who want to do that AND/OR stay relevant in our country’s current military ops, that reeks of insecurity.

    I stand by my comment (like many) you refuse to address - it isn’t “bizarre” to be happy about seeing the people we’ve trained and advised firsthand experiencing success. You dismiss that as a bunch of dudes sitting in their parents’ basements cheering for Russian casualties while watching Red Dawn and Rocky IV on repeat. Again, that reeks of insecurity.

     

  4. 49 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

    tell me more about these brave TDYs to Germany! omfg 🤣

    You’re right…rather than contribute to anything relevant to current ops, keep focusing on TP stalls and RCP landing currency. Who’s out of touch?

     

    You’re wrong about Korea and the Gulf War, BTW. SK is a top-15 economy and ranks fairly high on many QOL indices. But, that doesn’t fit in a one-liner that your brain can process so call it a loss. Gulf1 - did the coalition reach its objective (and the UN’s mandate) that Iraq withdraw all forces from Kuwait?
     

  5. 17 minutes ago, LookieRookie said:

    I understand what you’re saying, but you aren’t some bastion of geopolitical wisdom.

    You thought Libya was a US win and there was an active nuclear program (there wasn’t). It is a failed state and a breeding ground for terrorism.

    Context matters, brah. That was in response to Bashi’s claim that we haven’t seen a military W since WW2. OD was a military win, an UN-sanctioned one at that, even if that shitshow country remains a shitshow. Thankfully no one tried to nation-build there, considering how well it was going in Iraq and Afghanistan. 

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  6. I think I struck a nerve with Bashi, she’s lashing out at me. 

    Don’t get me wrong AETC-types, there’s nothing bad with doing the heavy lifting of instructing. I do it. I argue there’s something bad with getting so caught up in that environment that you lose sight of what’s going on in the MAF/CAF worlds. Even if family makes long deployments untenable, there are a lot of meaningful PACAF and USAFE TDYs that can keep you grounded. Take part, lest you lose touch and become a dinosaur. 

  7. 8 hours ago, DSG said:

    The psychology of emotional investment in this conflict is as bizarre to me as professional sports enthusiasm, but far more perverse.

    What’s not bizarre is that many of us on this very forum have directly contributed to the effort of assisting this country that has been invaded by our (the West’s) second most powerful nemesis. For those of us that have, it’s not “bizarre” to take some pride in seeing our Allies succeed. 
     

    Just because you’ve been hiding behind the flaming dildo shield of AETC (where your only “enemy” is some mythical timeline) doesn’t mean we’ve all been hiding there. 

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  8. The Baltics joined in ‘04 (tough to blame them, bracketed by K-grad and Belarus) and since then no one near Russia joined until they invaded Ukraine. 

    Now as a direct response to Putin invading Ukraine, Finland and Sweden are in. Zero chance of them joining pre-invasion. That’s a massive strategic failure by Putin if he was really concerned about NATO expansion  

    Bashi, you are regurgitating Putin’s talking points. 

  9. 1 hour ago, bfargin said:

    If China attacked Hawaii, China would no longer exist as we currently know it. I'd launch everything we have that makes things glow from the West coast and destroy every major city, military complex, and populated region of China. There'd be no nuance about it. Obviously with Guam my calculus is slightly different but I wouldn't just fight a battle where we were losing men and women slowly in a meat grinder. If talks didn't work quickly then they might get hit with the same massive strike as in scenario 1.

    Ummmm…no. If you think any “total war” retaliation is a given in today’s world you’re proving 4Fans’ point. 

  10. 45 minutes ago, Lawman said:


    We were trying to extract the legitimate government of Ukraine with use of non conventional assets and they refused to come out in the opening hours of this war.

    What exactly is legitimate that Ukraine was seeking a negotiated peace while Russia was driving on Kiev from Hostamel’s failed air assault and the Belarus convoy and somehow we convinced them to just keep rolling the dice?

    This sounds like more of the same bullshit blame the “western globalist,” nonsense he’s been pushing this whole thread. Somehow this is “our fault” for this war and not acknowledging Putin for exactly the threat he is.


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    This. My point in asking for a source is that one doesn’t exist for black knight’s simplistic claim.
     

    The idea/claim that there was a concerted effort to extract government members and cede the entire country does not equate to an attempt to save 400k lives. It ignores the reality that “saving 400k lives” (mostly Russian aggressors, BTW) would have meant allowing Russia to annex all of Ukraine. 
     

    If China were to attack Guam and Hawaii, would we “win” by ceding them both to save lives? I’d argue 1M lives lost to defend them would be a worthy cause. By black knight Bashi Chuni’s metrics, that defense would be another L in the win/loss column. God forbid there were a ceasefire at some point during that hypothetical conflict, he’d probably count it as two losses. 

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  11. 3 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

    yeah korea stalemate since 1950 big win.

    You know that stalemate involved pushing them back to the 38th with a stationary, mostly non-kinetic, border for 69+ years (and counting)…and an economically thriving South Korea, right?

    1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:

    Cool well I guess we agree now. I didn’t know you had so much respect for Biden…I’m not with you on that one. 
     

    Siri didn’t catch my typo, that bitch! I award you one grammar Nazi point. 

  12. Dude there are complications to EVERY military conflict. South Korea is still independent and flourishing. Libya was stopped from pursuing nukes. Kosovo like you said ultimately got our way. GW1 and the liberation of Kuwait was a clear success. I view GW1 separately from events after 2002. 
     

    My point stands, “zero success” post-ww2 is hyperbole. If we’re going to have an honest discussion, it starts with being objective. 

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  13. Just now, BashiChuni said:

    yeah how's that fucking worked out for us the last 20 years?

    We’re not batting zero. Every single geopolitical relationship/crisis is not exactly the same and easily summed up with a bumper sticker slogan 🤦‍♂️; unfortunately that’s all some people have the brainpower to process.

    They are called transactional relationships. These transactions are the very foundation of international politics, especially between countries with little in common. KSA is a counterbalance to Iran; they hate each other. I spent several months in Riyadh and their military guys reminded me daily. Not to mention they essentially are OPEC. Pakistan gave us overflight rights then stabbed us in the back hiding UBL. Egypt has flailed wildly back and forth, but again - overflight. Look at some of the countries we’ve sold Vipers to just to keep a security partnership foothold in the region. 
     

    Are you really arguing in favor of isolationism? Yeah, that’s worked out well in the past. Let’s just pull back completely annd everything will work out great 🥴.

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  14. 43 minutes ago, tac airlifter said:

    Can you point me to a pro-Putin stance articulated by a Republican?

    Unfortunately the front runner for the nomination is on record praising the man repeatedly. Clips are easy to find. The faction I refer to are his loyal supporters who blindly support every radical claim; fortunately mainstream politicians are smart enough not to take that stance. 
     

    I would rephrase your claim of “using” the Ukrainians to simply state that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, or ally. We spend far more on way less than helping to attrit the strength of our second largest geopolitical foe, one whose recent land-grabbing has scared many European nations into action. 
     

    There’s plenty of room for discussion on how to support them and how much is too much. Outright dismissal of their cause because of some corruption in the government is laughable. We’ve given aid to countries like KSA, Pakistan, Egypt and a host of others for years. I’ve been TDY to places that deal only in cash and I’m certain as soon as I left some on-base offices they started handing it around. It’s a convenient excuse to drum up now when it’s been largely tolerated for decades. 

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  15. 6 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

    Do you really equate being against giving Ukraine tens of billions of dollars (on top of the previous tens of billions) as being pro-Putin? 

    Im not equating them, but unfortunately I’ve watched a few friends go deep down the path of equating Ukraine support to love for Hunter Biden. 
     

    If we’d accurately poll people on three things - Ukraine apathy, Biden family hatred and Putin apologism - there would be a lot of overlap on the venn diagram. Maybe “pro-Putin” was a bit strong. R/R with “Putin apologist.”

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  16. It’s not 1v1 even if Ukraine support were to evaporate. Russia has the support of Iran, Belarus and NK via weapons and use of land/airspace during the war. China also has their back with a permanent seat on the security council to ensure the UN doesn’t write a letter that’s too sternly worded against Putin. 
     

    I still don’t understand how a significant faction of our last great president’s (Reagan) party has taken the pro-Putin/Russia stance. Conspiracy theories drive people to some fvcked up places. 

  17. On 8/29/2023 at 10:20 PM, Pooter said:
    On 8/29/2023 at 10:20 PM, Pooter said:

    My bad, I thought people were mad about the mandates.. reference the conversation above ☝️☝️ and dozens pages before it. 

    People are mad about more than one thing - mandates, wasteful spending intended to buy votes, pushing a questionable vaccine and virtue signaling via mask/jab/lockdown/etc. You act like there can only be one chief complaint about the Covid overreaction - if people are complaining about C19 stimulus #3 then they can’t be mad about mask or vaccine mandates. They’re actually ALL problematic. 
     

    Correct, this eventually became tribe warfare as one side aligned with mandates and printing money, the other with “conspiracy theories” and refusal follow guidelines…cuz ‘Murica! Thank our asshat politicians for the virtue signaling. 
     

    I will say this - three years later, the arguments of one side aged disproportionately better. 2020 conspiracy theories (possibility of lab leak, questioning vaccine efficacy numbers, questioning vaccine side-effects) are now mainstream concerns. Belief that the vaccine would actually be 99% effective, claims that your shitty cloth alma mater mask actually did any good, pushing a booster shot every few months…yeah, those didn’t age well. Needless to say, they’re still the morons masking up outside or alone in their cars. We know who the lemmings are. 

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  18. 28 minutes ago, FLEA said:

     

    Bigger picture, this attitude is preventing the DoD from streamlining infrastructure which is definitely needed to control spending. 

    Valid but I don’t think DM is really a good example of this problem. If the A-10 evaporated tomorrow, there are still EC-130s and plenty or rescue iron there. DM also houses an ACA Det, the 214th RG, an AOC, border patrol and this little thing called the boneyard - which has expanded its scope to essentially become a full-up maintenance depot. 
     

    The town is also 1.3M+ and growing, tough comparison to some ~40K sh!thole remote NM dustbowl. Taking our busiest operators and cramming them into Clovis was always a big FU to them and their families, and the perfect example of your point. 

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