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I'm a nav who took the bonus last year and got picked up this year finally 2APZ. As pointed out above, the PhD program I'm in was probably the deciding factor, but they obviously didn't hold the bonus against me (this was the first board I met since I got the bonus, since it was never available to old guys like me).Where is the data showing promotion rate for non-pilots that took the bonus? I think that this boils down to simple economics.... Why pay someone more when they don’t have an easy avenue to a six figure job on the outside and already committed for the next 5-6 years....
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Haha yeah. Considering that the reason I'm in this program is because the SECAF said "we need more engineering PhDs from civilian institutions", I had some hope there would be some emphasis put on it. But I figured if they did they would wait until I graduated!
Thanks though!
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Some of you may remember some of my story over the last few years. Quick recap, even tho I was a TPS grad/instructor nav, I was RIFd in 2014. I separated, became a GS and IMA, but then had it all reversed a year later through the BCMR (basically I should have never even been eligible to meet the RIF board). I knew when I accepted coming back that I was likely eternally screwed.
I got lucky and I was put in charge of a new unit and got Sq/CC equivalent on my OPR/PRF. But that didn't overcome my weird looking records with a year missing "per SECAF", and not enough strats earlier on. My IPZ was moved one year behind my peers and I was still passed over, and then passed over again last year. But in the meantime I managed to get myself into a PhD slot, so I at least had that going for me.
Well, against all odds, I made it this year! Not sure what the tipping point was, although I hoped it meant even more of my APZ bros were getting selected (from the stats it doesn't sound like it).
So I know it doesn't help the folks who didn't make it this year, but there is hope out there! I know I'm not the typical example, but I had enough "negative" stuff in the record that I didn't think anything would overcome it (and neither did any of senior leaders I knew, and I only ever managed to get Ps because they were afraid even a DP wouldn't be enough).
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After the great debacle of 2012, its going to be awhile before they don't offer continuation to everyone, unless there's something in your records to warrant not offering it. The bigger question is whether you'll be offered 20 or 24 years. The board instructions are usually posted on MyPers that outlines which AFSCs each year are considered critical skills and therefore will be offered 24. They make mistakes though...last year I was only offered 20 instead of 24 because my duty history looked funky, but I got them to correct it (I needed the 24 years so AFIT didn't kick me out of my PhD program!).My big question is about continuation for next year, assuming I will not make the cut at 1APZ. I’m all for continuing to 20 as a Major, but my fear is that I would just be separated instead. Does anyone know about the continuation boards, and rates on the people not offered continuation? I’ve looked at the past few years here, and seen that everyone passed over has been offered continuation.
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That's odd. When I did it 2 years ago it was with Autumn, and every other person I've talked to who have done it also did it with her. I didn't really find it helpful. Mostly "you need more strats and FGO awards". I would still recommend doing it the first time tho just in case something pops out.AFPC feedback was surprisingly helpful. It was a Lt Col who was the head of promotions, he went over all of the board instructions and then he went through some stuff in my record that stood out to him that wasn't in my prf that he thought should have been and just some writing techniques to strengthen the PRF. And we discussed SSB procedures to see if I could qualify. Ultimately he told me that my record was stronger than people who got promoted but my PRF didn't reflect that and that the board may have read something into it.
My Rater and Senior Rater feedback was worthless. My SR in my feedback when I asked why I didn't earn a DP said "don't worry, you have a great record, you will get promoted " my rater only said that I was his #1 and our pool must have been competitive.
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If your error was already corrected then that "should" have triggered an SSB automatically. But we know how that goes. If you were active duty, you would just email the AFPC Officer Promotions address (I don't have it off the top of my head, but it's on mypers), but for Guard, I doubt that will do any good. You probably have to go through your state weenies. If you're in CA I have a bro who can help. If not, good luck!Does anyone know where I can find information out about an SSB and how to get one initiated?
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Yeah, that's my point. For folks who are leaving this summer, it makes sense for the losing unit to do them. But for folks like me, who will have been gone for well over a year by the time the next PRFs are done, it makes no sense at all. But how will AFIT strat folks?!I think it’s odd to have 100 NO PRFs written by losing units....now being replaced by AFIT? Or would the onus fall back on everyone’s old losing unit who may or may never t even know who those people are anymore (3-year PHD)
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GPC limit is $25k, but I believe they have to get an authorization from finance or contracting to go above $5k, which is the limit before you have to go through contracting and do the three competing vendors shuffle. This is subject to change based on my memory.
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For those who have seen the guidance on rewriting NO PRFs for folks already in school, what's the gouge? I haven't heard anything from AFIT (although I'm sure they're not concerned until its time for the next board). Who writes these new PRFs, and who gives the strats?
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At least you're still there. What about those of us in an AAD program for 3 years where we have a NO already?Anyone have any gouge if you’re heading to school this summer what to do? My NO has already been written 9-line format. Am guessing my command will need to re-accomplish with new format.
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The discussion was more about that school getting in-residence credit, and therefore make them more competitive. Unfortunately your point still stands for that as well, because even if you have "credit", it's still obvious from your records whether you attended an actual IDE program or not. So the in-res credit is basically worthless.Schooling is not masked, no matter what they tell you
your ROP is there on an iPad and easily scrollable. If you have a training report from an in residence school, it can be seen.
The first page, your OPB? Does just say school complete or not, however i think it does show the year completed too.
masters degree and PHD are masked (if you took the initiation be to do it on your own)
however, a master or PHD when you did it full time will again be easily seen by any board. So if you get an advanced degree, do it through the AFIT program to do it full time.
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Pretty sure that's what it's been for the last several years. Remember, that doesn't mean they'll promote 85% of IPZ. It means the total number of people they'll promote is 85% of the number of IPZ, but the BPZ and APZ folks eat into that.Saw an email that said for the upcoming O-5 board, it’s an 85% promotion opportunity.
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Yup, the Aspire is awesome. I got it right around the time I posted about the CSR issues (which I still havent cancelled yet because I need to use my $300 travel credits first). Diamond status was given within 24 hours.
Another good one is the Amex Gold. They just buffed the benefits and it's a worthwhile card now. 4x points on grocery stores and dining. $10 a month credit at GrubHub and a few restaurants. $100 per year airline credit (works the same as the platinum and aspire).
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I'm not sure if I ever saw it in writing. I'll take a look when I get a chance to see if I had any emails about it. I just know I heard it from reliable enough sources to take it as gospel...and I'm the first person to be skeptical until I see the black and white!I was sent a memo from my AO last week stating 45 days is good for 5 years. If you or anyone else has a memo stating otherwise could you post it.
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It was changed from 45 to 60 or 90. Can't remember which because there was so much confusion over it. But its definitely not 45 anymore.I just need 45 days deployed to stave one off for five years.
Plus, with two under my belt already, there are plenty of other folks that will be more hot for them.
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For the original question, as olevelo points out, I also believe based on the new DOS, established by the continuation acceptance, that had someone taken the 20 years aviation service bonus previously that this would then have you retirement eligible at 20 and not force you to go past it, unless you wanted to. You’d very likely be forced to pay back any unearned portion of your bonus at that point, but otherwise free and clear.
I almost found out. I took the bonus to put me at 24, because I already have a PhD commitment until then. But when I got passed over and they initially only offered 20, AFIT threatened to kick me out of the program because I'd only have one year to pay back. I could have tried to fight them on it, with the fact that big AF made the decision. But I signed all the paperwork knowing what would probably happen on each end so it was hard for me to fight that in good faith.
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Confirming the confirmation on this. Once I got the corrected offer for 24, it also had the option to only accept 20.
Whichever one you select, they give you an automatic DOS in the system. So no ADSC's can push you back. However, any ADSC inside of that is fair game, so if you PCS or do some type of training it could impact the ability to punch between 20 and 24.
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Does anyone have any insight into the AF Student MLR process, and what NO push lines look like? Are NO PRFs allowed to have strats from the previous SR on the push line? Just wondering how level the playing field is at the student MLR, and if that’s unsuccessful in pulling a DP, how the NO PRF’s stack up at the actual board.
Also, anyone ever write a letter to the student MLR?
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I’m confused as to why they made a call and said hook him up, if they didn’t think he was worth being a Flt/CC in the first place?
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For those who would like to contribute, here’s the GoFundMe page for Hook’s family.
https://www.gofundme.com/chris-quothookquot-dupin039s-memorial-fund
There will be a memorial service on Saturday morning, 1000, at Eglin’s King Hangar, followed by a reception at 3rd Planet Brewery in Niceville.
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I’ve been devastated ever since I heard the news early Sunday. What a tragic loss. Hook was such an inspiring person. I got the pleasure of flying with him a few times years ago at the Eglin Aero club. Here is a pic of when he asked me to join him to fly his Champ to a local Fly-in. Nickel on the grass.
That’s the Champ that he donated as part of our charity raffle.
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I'm willing to bet you are right. But lets press the test button with an 05 year group that has been all but decimated. PRF was written 1BPZ by the Group last year. All you have to do for IPZ is insert additional strats and submit to Execs.
For everything but the push line, yes. But there’s about a 0.01% chance a senior rater is going to give a DP or a good push to a guy who just showed up. Unless the previous senior rater makes a phone call and says look out for my guy.
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One more...just a few days ago Hook posted this video to Reddit. I’m sure you’ll all appreciate it!
Hook!
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This was a Reddit post from one of the CFI’s who worked for him with some more details. There’s lots of good words about him on several Reddit threads and on jetcareers.
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