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Read it...whole lot of nothing outside the Ohr stuff. Unclassify the FISA warrant and get this over with. No bombshell as promised from the right, no huge threat to national security as promised from the left.

I don't get it.

Running an influence campaign against the United States is not "hacking" an election. Hacking an election implies that the Russians somehow manipulated the vote count by accessing databases and/or voting machines and creating and/or deleting votes. Is that what you're claiming happened?

So some Democrats did not want Trump to be president. I'm Shocked! Other news water is still wet.

I bet 90% of those parked in the desert would start right back up. You’d just need to have someone there to bounce on the wing a couple of times during engine start.

Imagine your friend watched an unreliable weather report and was convinced that the weather over the weekend would be bad. Instead he wakes on Saturday to clear skies and 80F. You tell him to join you for some fun outside but he refuses to even consider it and doesn’t even look out his window. Instead he stays inside, tells everyone on social media how bad the weather is and complains about how it is only getting worse and the weather is probably really bad in the next town over. When friends say “look outside, it’s gorgeous” he tells them they are idiots and he knows more about weather than they do, they must be watching the wrong weather channel and they are not empathetic to the suffering of the people affected by the weather. Finally he looks outside and sees neighbors returning from boating on a sunny day realizing it was nice...but is upset.....he doesn’t own a boat as nice as theirs and what about the people who don’t own a boat at all? How could they enjoy a sunny day? This is how I feel around my Democrat friends post 2016 election.

This is so not surprising to me. I can’t tell you how many opsec briefs I’ve sat through pre-deployment and then had squadron members (from FNG to leadership) posting the exact stuff we were just told to not post. The most egregious was a Major posting a picture of the globe with every place (ICAO ID’s) our community had been throughout the world over the last year and talking about how busy they’d been. The Commies don’t even have to try anymore. We’ll just give them the info eventually.

Good thing your opinion is right.

MQ1 & 9 should not be controlled by anything labeled ISR. Yes they collect information and have a pod for video. That’s second to their ability to kill people. Think the A10s should be under ISR? No. But they collect info and can broadcast it out. Dumb idea.

A report from the DNI who perjured himself before Congress when he said the US government was not collecting massive amounts of data on all Americans? Forgive me if I take anything with his name attached with a huge grain of salt.

We've circled on this before, but here's the initial DHS/DNI statement from October 7th, 2016 (i.e. before the election happened) and here's the full IC report from January, 2017. Without revealing sources and methods it's pretty damn detailed, and I've read the entire report. I would encourage you to read it too. To answer your point #1, from the initial statement put out before anyone knew the outcome of the election: The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. So you can choose to believe the US intelligence community or not; I'm going to believe their assessment. The rest of your points follow an interesting narrative arc. You start with (sic), "I don't think they did it, show me the proof that they did." Then you move to, "We do the same thing all the time, not so bad." Next up is, "If they did do it, we should thank them because my preferred candidate won!" And finally you end with, "Well, they did something, but I'm moving the goal posts and pulling a Bill Clinton-esque argument to quibble over what 'hacking' means." NO ONE IS ARGUING that the Russians literally changed vote totals. Luckily enough for us our system of elections is arcane and diffuse enough that it's pretty hard to change vote totals enough to tip national elections. Kinda like why we still use 8" floppy disks to launch nukes. Russia ran an pretty wide-ranging influence campaign that included the use of hacked and stolen emails released through intermediaries. They wanted to cause chaos and they wanted to make the US political system look bad and divide us against ourselves...unfortunately I'd say mission accomplished. Those actions are "hacking" by any reasonable definition, that's still a direct attack on our electoral process, that's why the GOP-controlled Congress voted 517-5 to sanction Russia (among other bad actors) for their actions. I will also stand up and say absolutely, 100% I would have still cared about this issue if Hillary had won. In fact, if the Russians intervene in our elections in 2018 or in 2020 trying to defeat Congressional Republicans or President Trump, I'm against those actions just as much as any Republican. If Vladimir Putin goes on Russian state TV and personally releases the infamous (alleged) pee tape as an October 2020 surprise that sinks the President's reelection chances, fuck that guy, although I still reserve the right to at least lol as a partisan Dem. The voters of this country should decide who our leaders are, free of malevolent influence by an foreign nation. I'm not sure that exactly should earn a Profile in Courage, but apparently it needs to be said because for some, it seems partisanship is trumping patriotism when facing this threat.

Oh, yay, the Russian argument. 1. Show me the proof of “hacking”...it’s been over a year. 2. The US influences elections all the time. 3. If Russia did cause Hillary to lose, we should be thanking them. 4. Remember “it’s not rigged, your just losing” from the dems just before the election? If Hillary had won it wouldn’t be an issue. Hacking the DNC for politicL intel is not hacking an election. The dems keep changing definitions and metrics to fit your poorly founded “Russia” argument and whine fest. We hear about it every few months when the racism, sexism arguments don’t pan out. Truly desperate and really sad to watch the sinking ship of the left.

Well I guess you can unilaterally define "hacking" how you'd like, but the rest of the world disagrees with you...even Trump himself. I know it's been a busy news year, but try and keep up. "As far as hacking, I think it was Russia" ~Donald J. Trump, 11 Jan 2017 Russia hacked the DNC, RNC (no success), and attemped to hack at least 21 states election systems with varying degrees of success. Should we just sit on our thumbs until we have verified proof they changed a vote and then decide to act? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/23/what-we-know-about-the-21-states-targeted-by-russian-hackers/?utm_term=.5b2e53a5cdaf http://time.com/5124313/cia-mike-pompeo-russia-midterm-elections/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jan/11/donald-trump/trump-says-russians-were-unable-hack-republican-na/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/22/electronic-voting-state-hacking-russian-government-cyber-actors/ http://time.com/4828306/russian-hacking-election-widespread-private-data/ http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article191857354.html http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article174950031.html http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article157039299.html You guys beat Democrats over the head for years when Obama said Russia wasn't our enemy and the "cold war was over" when debating Romney. Democrats were wrong, but now Republicans have done a 180 and are content to sit idly by while Russia continues to influence our democratic process. You can try to act like we are being alarmist, but if Saudi Arabia used money and hacking to support Hillary and she had won the election, there would be a civil war going on right now. You need to take a step back, remove the politics and realize what foreign entities are doing to our country, and the long-term damage it could have. We need to sanction Russia into the stone age, and sit down and have an honest discussion about our antiquated voting systems.

I'd like to think one of those lines is me running to the bathroom with pants full of salmonella shits, you can almost see the little brighter red spot on Disney. Good times.

MAJCOM patch Really? Thought Cyber was happy in AFSPC but if y'all are good with it, cool.

AFROTC holds a non-sponsored AFRC board every October. It's not advertised, so you have to get your det staff to fill you in and get an application. Even without it, nothing is keeping you from rushing guard or reserve units. If you get hired by a unit, AFROTC will change your status and allow you to pursue that option. I got picked up in this year's AFROTC/AFRC board, so message me if you have any questions man. Best of luck.

I feel like Republicans will stand in a monsoon and tell me it's clear skies and 80F outside. Politics aside, Russia hacked our elections and has faced no consequences. Everyone in the know is warning they will continue to do so. Right now it's fun because your team is winning, but Russia doesn't care about republicans or democrats in the long run. They want the US in disorder and for us to cede power around the world, which is happening everywhere you look if you're willing to see it. This place never ceases to amaze me...on one thread you've got salty guys willing to crucify their USAF leadership for being shitty leaders and not caring for their people, while at the same time in another thread cheering for the chaos happening in our government for the same leadership transgressions on a larger scale.

This right here is exactly what is so great about the airline world...YOU GET TO CHOOSE! While it sucks to be junior commuting to reserve (I am right there with you and feel your pain) it's a choice. You could be more senior with a line but have to add in a double commute. It's all about what you decide is the best option. I could be 40-45% from the top, live in base, and hold a line in the right seat, but the wife and I decided if any time is best to do it, now is the time to jump to the left seat and commute to reserve. Sucks at times but we have CHOSEN to chase the money. I cannot remember any time while on AD, and to an extent in the reserves other than to leave, that I was ever really given a choice.

Whoosh right over that dome

Can we rename “defense spending” to “throw our money in the gutter trying to help third world Islamic shitholes become livable by western standards in futility spending” ?!? I’m pro military spending but we absolutely waste a ton of tax dollars.

i don’t think those places are the issue. it’s all the outposts and unacknowledged locations in the middle of sudan, syria, and elsewhere that are lit up

Who do the recruits talk to before signing up?

This is all f#cked up. I am getting random backpaid LES's in the ANG for $5.33 per pay period (AFTP/RUTA). I went from $650 to $1,000 by jumping from 6+ to 10+ 1 Oct 2017. The funny part is I got $28 incentive pay ($840/30) on an AFTP that paid out a few weeks ago. $840 was the old 14 year incentive pay. I wouldn't hit the 14-year Aviation service pay until next fall and besides that, that $840 incentive pay doesn't even exist anymore. Until the new policy I was in the 6-year club getting $650 or $21.67 per pay period. If they're back pay me $5.33 per pay . Based on this change I should be getting $11.63 back pay for each AFTP/RUTA. Looks like I'm going to have to talk to my HARM and finance tomorrow.

Thats not how budgets work, I expect Republicans to cut other things.

Can’t wait!!!

For all you 1911 buffs out there. The CMP just received 8,000 from the Army. It will be at least 60 days before they can start opening crates and looking at them. But I’d expect the order forms to be available soon after that. I’m going to try and get my one for the year and call it good. But to have an official issued one in my safe will be cool.

If the line is out the door, may not the that much of a best kept secret...

RF-4C 1. Ops tempo: Outstanding. Best kept secret. Basically a flying club. As a 1Lt it's your airplane with great responsibility; "All we ask is bring it back in one piece." Flying is mostly low level single ship to where ever YOU and your WSO decide to go that day. Not flying, review your film from previous day, do a tour in the RSU, perhaps a little studying in the vault, shelf check at the BX. TDY's and deployments minimal and considered a good deal. AAR training every couple of months. Night AAR is always scheduled with a full moon. If stationed in Germany always save a little fuel for the fur ball with whomever is trolling along the Rhine. 2. LIfestyle/family: Could not be better. Home every day by 5. No working weekends. If stationed in Germany most have a rental Swiss chalet for the winter skiing months. 3. Community morale: Excellent. Surprising amount of fellow pilots UPT DG's. Some turned down fighters to fly Recce. Everyone works and pulls together. 4. Advancement & Future of Airframe: Terrible, once Recce always Recce according to MPC although I managed a 4 yr OA-37 assignment to DM. (another flying club). NO future dedicated manned Recce airframes. 5. Preferred PCS locations: Zweibrucken, Alconbury, Bergstrom. Oh crap, just got up from a nap. Dreaming it was 1977 and not 2017! Sorry guys, you missed a great time in the AF. 10 years AD then off to a legacy airline.

Below average IQ and brass balls, I imagine.

You take advice from retards often?

Here's a free piece of advice you should take- NEVER pass up the opportunity to shut the fuck up

On your second post, you're going to bash someone who asked an honest question and by all accounts... has helped contribute valuable information to the forum? Seriously? Indeed.

Fighters are terrific overall and I've never met a fighter pilot who regretted flying them vs something else. The only bad part of flying fighters in the USAF is the USAF. I've seen a constant erosion of lifestyle fun and reward but it is still the best job in the world....just not as fun as it used to be or "could" be. Once you figure out the USAF game/system and realize the USAF needs you as an 11F more than you need it, the work drops off and the lifestyle quality dramatically increases. If you are willing to stab your bros in the back and sell your soul to climb the exec ladder into rank/school/Job etc. you will be miserable, hated or burn yourself out.

Surely you won't mind if I source check your "unbiased facts in public record"...can you specify what "fake" dossier claims were used as evidence in a secret FISA warrant request? Are you concerned that the FBI was able to produce enough evidence to convince a FISA court there was probable cause Carter Page was involved in criminal activity with foreign agents? Law enforcement gets leads from everywhere...why would the dossier be treated any different? Given Steele's background, he was likely a credible source to the FBI. Simpson testified to congress that the dossier was taken seriously because of how many details corroborated the ongoing FBI investigation. The FBI did their job of investigating and requesting a warrant through a FISA court. If you have a complaint about the FISA court process and what their standard for probable cause is, then by all means lets have a public discussion about what power we've given these courts. To say the FBI broke the rules and somehow pulled the wool over a FISA court judge who was appointed by SCOTUS Chief Justice is a very strong charge with little supporting evidence. Nunes is trying to drive a narrative that the FBI is tainted and being used for political purposes...which is rich when you compare the 2016 coverage of Clinton's emails vs Russian interference. For all the "collusion" the DNC did to dig up the Russian interference they sure did a bad job of actually weaponizing it for political purposes. The memo will come out in a few days, and it will be red meat for you and the rest of the (R) base. Crafted by one side to support a narrative, while conveniently leaving out the full picture. In the end the FBI convinced a judge there was probable cause Carter was up to no good, and were allowed to look into it. I see no reason to doubt the system worked the way it was intended.

I'm a little late to the fight here but dude, your engrish is f'ing terrible. Seriously guys?

I'm not sure what "valuable information" you're referring to. You should reread his comment history. Seriously.

I wonder which three air frames would come up... Must just be a crazy theory.

7 day ops lol. Ok kid.