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Well I'm glad to see the Saudis and UAE found their Red Line and that line seems to be about $92 a barrel.

To be fair and within context...Bush was holding the dog with both hands and clumsily attempted to salute....well-intentioned, but incorrect form. Obama's left hand was free, and could have transferred the coffee to the other hand, but made a limp salute, coffee-in-hand. I think people's "outrage" stems from external perception...and it's fair to state that Obama appeared to salute in a manner that screams "ok, fine...here's your damn salute". We also have to remember that other presidents have paid dearly for perceived outward impressions. Bush during Katrina, is one example. No one knows how he really felt about the victims in New Orleans and elsewhere along the Gulf coast, but the way he came across on TV seemed full of ambivalence, and he paid for it in the public's opinion. With the "latte salute", there's already a general perception among a lot of people that Obama doesn't really care for the military, and that salute only helps cement that image. Personally, as the CinC, he should at least learn to do the ceremonial stuff right. It's not like those Marine's ambush him at the foot of the stairs each time he steps on or off an aircraft...and his people should know there's always going to be a ton of cameras recording the event.

Glad they got in the fight. USAF prediction: -DFC's in lieu of air medals -McKay Trophy frontrunner for penetrating highly contested ISIS airspace narrowly defeating AK-47 gunfire. -Confirmed status as #1 A/G platform in aviation history finally displacing the B-1 of the coveted role. -Added to the list of USAF CAS (defined as any A/G mission/recon) proven aircraft but outdated and in urgent need of replacement by the F-35.

I disagree. Getting worked up over the coffee salute is a sign of weakness.

Easy fix- how bout we stop saluting this civilian then? Probably because he is also the commander-in chief. Hence the reason he should honor the respect intended by such salute and render one back in a professional and respectful manner. That's why some are upset. It's about respect. I suppose the fix is to remove the salute from Marine POTUS customs and courtesies.

This dumb shit is on here too? He's a civilian. The salutes didn't start until Reagan did it. I don't care for the man, but this is some dumb shit to be getting worked up over. How about this instead - Air Force Installation & Mission Support Center http://www.afmc.af.mil/library/featuredtopicarchive/airforceinstallation&missionsupportcenter.asp Now the wing king ain't.

Sure. It worked didn't it? Why waste all our fancy toys and expensive weapons when a simple phone call will do? NKE doesn't have to just be cyber guys and EA. I can't wait to incorporate this into my next CT SEAD ride. "Alright fellas, today's scenario is that about 12 hours ago the US State Department called [country] and told them we're coming. They said they would leave their radars on for us to practice against but weren't going to shoot at us. They pinky promised. Sweet, well that's it. See you at step."

One year in the desert.

Dear Israel, Arab League, et al - We are broke. Please take care of this yourself. Sincerely, The United States of America PS: Oil below $50/barrel would be nice.

"Perception that Obama doesn't like the military?!?" It's a well documented fact, and antics like this doesn't do him any favors in the eyes of those who wear or have worn the uniform. Article 88 notwithstanding, I don't think he even cares. It doesn't seem to bother him that he isn't showing the proper customs and courtesies to the Marines...

Or just carry your dog around with you everywhere you go, since that seems to be an accepted practice.

This is literally the last thing in the world to get spun up about. I'd rather him support Roe v Wade and ###### up a couple salutes then the other way around. edit: oh yeah, I went there