If you have met all the time requirements and have passed the written is it possible to get your ATP during your T-1 checkride. Will the FAA give you the equivalency rating like they do with the Commercial, Instrument, and Multiengine ratings.
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 03:16 PM
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 07:00 PM
Nope...unless you can get an FAA examiner on board. Even then, the FAA isn't too thrilled when the examiner isn't in the seat.
BUT...if you happen to want to get your type rating in the 737, you can get your ATP done in conjunction with the type.
BUT...if you happen to want to get your type rating in the 737, you can get your ATP done in conjunction with the type.
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 07:03 PM
Not on a T-1 (or any other USAF aircraft...)
BUT, if you are lucky enough to become an IP at Corpus (C-12/T-44) you can get your ATP in the US Navy plane (there is an FAA examiner at the base...) and it is a good deal for everyone!
BUT, if you are lucky enough to become an IP at Corpus (C-12/T-44) you can get your ATP in the US Navy plane (there is an FAA examiner at the base...) and it is a good deal for everyone!
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Posted 01 September 2006 - 01:43 PM
It seems that there are zillions of companies offering ATP training. How do I know if they are legit/accreditted/whatever?
Can anyone recommend a program?
What are the differences between the different training programs (certified/written tested/etc)?
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[ 01. September 2006, 19:24: Message edited by: Toro ]
Can anyone recommend a program?
What are the differences between the different training programs (certified/written tested/etc)?
Thanks,
cliffy
[ 01. September 2006, 19:24: Message edited by: Toro ]
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Posted 01 September 2006 - 02:59 PM
I know a number of guys who have used the long weekend ATP courses.
Yes, they're totally legit, and many times they cator to military guys.
The options generally are:
ATP checkride only
ATP written and checkride
FE and ATP written, ATP checkride
They all cost between $1K and $2K, depending on where they are and which of the options you want.
Yes, they're totally legit, and many times they cator to military guys.
The options generally are:
ATP checkride only
ATP written and checkride
FE and ATP written, ATP checkride
They all cost between $1K and $2K, depending on where they are and which of the options you want.
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Posted 03 September 2006 - 04:47 AM
I used www.sheppardair.com for the test prep for both the ATP and FE written exams. This stuff is right on the money. Well worth the dough.
I did the ATP practical at Pensacola. The latest price was 1795.00 plus the cost of the checkride.
The sheppardair software allows you to have the exact same database as the ALLATP folks, but you get to do it at your own convienence and pace. When you are ready you go take the test. Sheppardair guarantees success! I aced both test!
Visit the website for more details
I did the ATP practical at Pensacola. The latest price was 1795.00 plus the cost of the checkride.
The sheppardair software allows you to have the exact same database as the ALLATP folks, but you get to do it at your own convienence and pace. When you are ready you go take the test. Sheppardair guarantees success! I aced both test!
Visit the website for more details
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Posted 03 September 2006 - 11:01 AM
On the ATP Front, now that the 130 sims are all certified for landing, any reason why we couldn't do an ATP checkride in them? After having the written done of course. My last airplane couldn't due to contract stuff but I know the C-9 guys used to get away with it. Any ideas on how to make this happen?
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Posted 03 September 2006 - 11:52 PM
If you're at Columbus, I recommend the program offered by Carl Nuzzo at the Starkville airport. He runs the FBO there and will train you to pass your ATP without the extra BS. There's a difference when you train for your ATP with a 4000 hr retired USAF pilot versus flying with a 20-year old pimple faced kid with 500 hours total piston time wishing he worked for ASA. Check it out for yourself.
http://www.accessibl....com/index.html
http://www.accessibl....com/index.html
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Posted 26 February 2004 - 10:49 PM
Just want to know if anyone has seen an ATP Cert make a difference at an interview (ANG)? I'm wondering if the pursuit of an ATP is notable to a board even though it isn't at all required.
Does anyone know of this certification making an impression? I know I can estimate that it could make a difference, but it would be nice to hear of some actual cases.
Thanks ahead of time.
Does anyone know of this certification making an impression? I know I can estimate that it could make a difference, but it would be nice to hear of some actual cases.
Thanks ahead of time.
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Posted 26 February 2004 - 11:04 PM
When I did my guard interview (I didn't get the job) during the summer of 2002, I was a commercial pilot with about 600 hours, on my way to get my CFI/I, I had the second highest time out of 17 interviews, the other guy had an ATP with about 1800+ hours. He didn't get the job either. I am not detering you from going for it, it does look nice to have. But from my experience, I honestly don't think that it would matter that much at all. Myself and the ATP guy both lost to private instrument guys with around 50-150 hours. They want to be able to see if they can sit in a cockpit with you for a fews hours, and on that note have you in their unit for 20 years. Win your UPT slot with your attitude. Good luck!
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Posted 26 February 2004 - 11:30 PM
coexint speaks the truth. Having flight experience is good, but the Air Force will teach you everything you need to know to fly their jets. Just be a shit hot guy that they will want to fly with and you'll have no problem.
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Posted 27 February 2004 - 06:56 AM
Just to add to what coexint said, I also interviewed with several guard units with a lot of flight time/certs to no avail. They are looking at the whole person concept. If they don't like the whole package that is sitting in front of them, experience doesn't matter. They can teach the guy with 0 flight time how to fly--and they will if they see someone that they want to be a part of their unit. Although the applicant with X number of hours and an ATP might be tempting, if they don't seem like the kind that you'd want at the next squadron cookout, or deployment, or 0300 alert launch, etc...
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Posted 27 February 2004 - 04:36 PM
ATP is great for your follow-on jobs in the civilian sector as a part-timer - definitely a plus in many cases, but hard to unlearn things when going to the UPT if you have established other ways(not wrong) of doing things. I rather enjoyed not know crapola and starting from scratch! We look at ATPs favorably, but as said before attitude is everything and if you have it together, you should have no problems.
For those of you who are getting frustrated meeting boards over and over again - keep at it and don't quit. It is truly a tough endeavor since there are many qualified candidates out there from which we can choose from!!!
You get the GYST of it! (Get Your Sh___t Together)
Always think the next board is your chance to show your stuff and get selected. Good luck!
For those of you who are getting frustrated meeting boards over and over again - keep at it and don't quit. It is truly a tough endeavor since there are many qualified candidates out there from which we can choose from!!!
You get the GYST of it! (Get Your Sh___t Together)
Always think the next board is your chance to show your stuff and get selected. Good luck!
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 06:51 PM
To everyone out there..... ALL ATP is a rip off! They do not respect military, nor do they care about your training. They just want your money to get you out the door as quickly as possible.
I recently went there to take the ATP written and found the entire operation to be very shady!!! I highly discourage anyone from getting tangled up with them!
I recently went there to take the ATP written and found the entire operation to be very shady!!! I highly discourage anyone from getting tangled up with them!
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 02:14 AM
jterp, on Oct 2 2007, 11:51 PM, said:
To everyone out there..... ALL ATP is a rip off! They do not respect military, nor do they care about your training. They just want your money to get you out the door as quickly as possible.
I recently went there to take the ATP written and found the entire operation to be very shady!!! I highly discourage anyone from getting tangled up with them!
I recently went there to take the ATP written and found the entire operation to be very shady!!! I highly discourage anyone from getting tangled up with them!
Well, the price is very low for a reason: no frills. I took a week of leave, and did their 6-point prep course.
However, if you think you're going to go to Southwest Airlines, just go get the 737 type, and the ATP obviously comes with it.
Fortune favors the prepared.
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Huggyu2, on Oct 3 2007, 02:14 AM, said:
Well, the price is very low for a reason: no frills. I took a week of leave, and did their 6-point prep course.
However, if you think you're going to go to Southwest Airlines, just go get the 737 type, and the ATP obviously comes with it.
However, if you think you're going to go to Southwest Airlines, just go get the 737 type, and the ATP obviously comes with it.
Just make sure you show up for your 737 training with the ATP written, I completed my 73 type at crewpilottraining.com down in Houston. Awesome facilities (contracted from Continental) and it took 2 weeks. I used Sheppardair for the written and took my test with them as well since I was stationed at Sheppard. He has a program that eliminates approx 60% of the ATP written questions that never get asked so you only have to study for a day to get it down. If you have the GI Bill, your cost for the type and ATP will only be $2800...the VA will pay for 60%. Not a bad deal when you consider you could spend up to $2000 just for your ATP alone and for an extra $800 you get the the 737 type as well. Good luck! Sparky
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Posted 30 May 2010 - 09:14 AM
Thread revival.
Anybody know of any military friendly ATP programs out there that they have recent experience with? I know a couple guys did one down by Mesa (not All ATP) and I'm just looking for a good place to start calling around.
Thanks in advance
Sledy
Anybody know of any military friendly ATP programs out there that they have recent experience with? I know a couple guys did one down by Mesa (not All ATP) and I'm just looking for a good place to start calling around.
Thanks in advance
Sledy
Edited by sledy, 30 May 2010 - 09:15 AM.
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Posted 30 May 2010 - 09:29 AM
What part of the country are you in? I know All ATP's is running this special right now, http://www.atpflight...tp-special.html In my opinion that is a good deal if you need the written and flight evaluation. I got my ATP 2 weeks ago at a small flight school in Iowa and already had the written completed and my price out the door was $1600. Check with your local flight schools, travel costs could offset the lower advertised price of going to an All ATP's location.
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with All ATP or any other flight school.
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with All ATP or any other flight school.
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sledy, on 30 May 2010 - 09:14 AM, said:
Thread revival.
Anybody know of any military friendly ATP programs out there that they have recent experience with?
Anybody know of any military friendly ATP programs out there that they have recent experience with?
As with many of the folks on this site, you haven't put much info on your Profile page. Telling us where you live and your experience would help with answering this question.
Edited by Huggyu2, 30 May 2010 - 11:45 AM.
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:18 PM
sledy, on 30 May 2010 - 09:14 AM, said:
Thread revival.
Anybody know of any military friendly ATP programs out there that they have recent experience with? I know a couple guys did one down by Mesa (not All ATP) and I'm just looking for a good place to start calling around.
Thanks in advance
Sledy
Anybody know of any military friendly ATP programs out there that they have recent experience with? I know a couple guys did one down by Mesa (not All ATP) and I'm just looking for a good place to start calling around.
Thanks in advance
Sledy
I recently did ATP training with Accessible Aviation nearby Columbus AFB, MS. I did the ATP written test ($150) at a local testing center after studying on my own with Sheppard Air software ($75). Then I went to Accessible Aviation. I took two flights in a Seneca on a Saturday, one flight on Sunday morning, and the check ride Sunday afternoon. The oral quiz lasted about 1.5 hours, and the checkride was 2.5 hours. Carl Nuzzo is the owner and, most likely, will be the one to instruct you. He is also a part-time sim instructor for the T-6's at the base. I think that the program was thorough and Carl gave the best training a military pilot can ask for. It cost $2500 (includes lodging and examiner fee).
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