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#1 Muscle2002

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:37 PM

A comptroller?

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#2 HU&W

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:50 PM

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Interesting.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 06:35 AM

View PostHU&W, on 27 July 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

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Interesting.


Interesting, in a time where the air force is being asked to slim its' budget down.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 06:57 AM

It's just a matter of time when there will be a non pilot as the Chief of Staff of the AF. In the recent bombings in Libya the General in command was a tanker pilot and female. In the next Lt Col promotion board, there will be more passed over Major pilots released from active duty before retirement. Time to play the game for real or dust off your resume. Either way, the AF could care less. Pilot wings will only take you so far.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:49 AM

View Postalwyn2d, on 28 July 2012 - 06:57 AM, said:

Pilot wings will only take you so far.


Imagine that! You have to be an officer to progress. Someone I respect once told all of us: "Look at your LES and see how much you get paid to be an officer and compare that to how much you get paid to be a pilot." It is good advice.

Be good at your primary duties: officership and flying. Be good at your secondary duties: office work. You will be just fine.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:17 PM

View PostThreeHoler, on 28 July 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:


Be good at your primary duties: officership and flying. Be good at your secondary duties: office work.Look good on paper. You will be just fine.


FIFY

Not trying to be funny here...but no matter how good you are at your primary job or office job, if you don't effectively translate it to paper (OPR, PRF) you will not be just fine. While I believe the promotion process gets it right most of the time, there are more than enough mediocre officers getting promoted ONLY because they look good on paper. As much as we don't like it, you either play the game or go home.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:38 AM

View PostBitteEinBit, on 28 July 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

Not trying to be funny here... there are more than enough mediocre officers getting promoted ONLY because they look good on paper.



Edited by pcola, 29 July 2012 - 09:40 AM.

Instead of some cerebral quote, I'll recommend the book "Fighter Pilot" about the legendary Robin Olds. Read it!

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:08 AM

View Postalwyn2d, on 28 July 2012 - 06:57 AM, said:

In the next Lt Col promotion board, there will be more passed over Major pilots released from active duty before retirement.


What is your source for this? At the most recent rated manning conference in DC, AF/A1PP, who is in charge of setting personnel policy, stated that non-continuation would not be used as a force shaping tool in coming boards. The AF is close enough to meeting it's end-strength goals that they only need to use volunteer and incentive programs instead.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 10:36 AM

View PostKikuchiyo, on 02 August 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:


What is your source for this? At the most recent rated manning conference in DC, AF/A1PP, who is in charge of setting personnel policy, stated that non-continuation would not be used as a force shaping tool in coming boards. The AF is close enough to meeting it's end-strength goals that they only need to use volunteer and incentive programs instead.

yeah, like RIF boards right?

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 11:14 AM

View Posttunes, on 02 August 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:


yeah, like RIF boards right?

Side effect of the RIF board/continuation fiasco-- people who were on the fence about staying in are now more than willing to accept "incentives" or even just the opportunity to voluntarily separate.
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