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[theSituation]

Muscle2002, on 17 October 2011 - 06:20 PM, said:

Slight thread hijack, but on the note of CBTs, I could not find any definitive guidance on whether as a pilot I still need to take SERE 100 on ALDS. According to other websites from the Navy, SERE 100 is only required if you haven't done SERE B/C training like we all have; obviously AF guidance would be better.

Does anyone know the answer?

/hijack

I was severely pissed off when I got back from SERE a week ago and was told that I needed to complete that cbt promptly.
At least it was fresh in my mind so it went by fairly quickly.

[ram02]

theSituation, on 17 October 2011 - 10:10 PM, said:

I was severely pissed off when I got back from SERE a week ago and was told that I needed to complete that cbt promptly.
At least it was fresh in my mind so it went by fairly quickly.

That's how you know SERE is an Air Force course: you had to do it both in-residence and correspondence.

[pawnman]

nsplayr, on 17 October 2011 - 05:39 PM, said:

Eh...wasting time on unnecessary requirements is a problem (not the biggest IMHO), and CBTs are small fish when compared to the endless ORE-ORI-UCI-ASEV-rinse-repeat cycle, dog-and-pony shows for DVs, re-writing regs/SSS/OPRs to add that extra return after the properly formatted date, etc. With the new Tier 2A/2B scheme that covers most of the CBTs, it's really only every 2 years that you have to accomplish large amount...I think there's only 6 you have to do yearly (plus whatever is required by local regs).

So I guess I feel your sentiment but disagree with the scale of the problem...click through as fast as possible and be done with it.

Actually, depending on your deployment cycle, you end up doing those two-year CBTs every 6 months (to be current all the way through the deployment, then to be current for the next ORI, then to be current again for your next deployment).

Of course, part of the problem is that our training managers insist on making people current THROUGH the deployment...when the reg only requires you to be current the day you set foot in the AOR.

[tundra AC]

Muscle2002, on 17 October 2011 - 06:20 PM, said:

Slight thread hijack, but on the note of CBTs, I could not find any definitive guidance on whether as a pilot I still need to take SERE 100 on ALDS. According to other websites from the Navy, SERE 100 is only required if you haven't done SERE B/C training like we all have; obviously AF guidance would be better.

Does anyone know the answer?

/hijack

Had to fight this off many times. Not sure about the other MAJCOMs, but the AMC sup to 16-1301 says flyers don't need to do this if they're good on HRI/CoC.


2.2.4.3. (AMC) Current acceptable courseware for level B CoCT is the SERE 100 CBT and will be available through the Advanced Distributed Learning Service (ADSL). Personnel who complete this training receive credit for SS21, SS26 and SS28. Target audience for level-B CoCT training are those who are not required S-V80-A Combat SERE Training listed in Table 2.1. All who are required S-V80-A Combat SERE Training are considered level-C high-risk of isolation (HRI), and do not need level-B CoCT training.

[nsplayr]

pawnman, on 18 October 2011 - 07:17 PM, said:

Of course, part of the problem is that our training managers insist on making people current THROUGH the deployment...when the reg only requires you to be current the day you set foot in the AOR.

Yea, the system doesn't always work right, but if the above is true then a majority of the problem is self-induced. If the reg allows people to "expire" while deployed, let them. That's an easy kill if inspectors ask why Capt. Joe Blow isn't current...he's deployed and that specific situation is addressed by AFI-69-1234.

[sky_king]

... which will result in the SOF guys getting chiefed.

[SocialD]

sky_king, on 19 October 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

... which will result in the SOF guys getting chiefed.

Would love to see that! I mean look at this guy...sleeves rolled up, facial hair out of regs, glasses on his head!!!!!!! He's probably no good at his job and should not be trusted...

Edited by SocialD, 19 October 2011 - 03:59 PM.

[sky_king]

His gloves don't even have fingertips. Talk about disrespect for the uniform.

[DirkDiggler]

sky_king, on 19 October 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

... which will result in the SOF guys getting chiefed.

Not where they live it won't, chiefs don't exist in those parts, too dangerous for their health. Even at the main bases Chiefs know better than to pull that shit with those guys, they'll get asked to leave the living area politely, one time.

[Rainman A-10]

DirkDiggler, on 19 October 2011 - 06:19 PM, said:

Not where they live it won't, chiefs don't exist in those parts, too dangerous for their health. Even at the main bases Chiefs know better than to pull that shit with those guys, they'll get asked to leave the living area politely, one time.

The truest words ever posted.

[nsplayr]

sky_king, on 19 October 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

... which will result in the SOF guys getting chiefed.

Especially on Big Blue BAF. Walking on Disney or at the chow hall you're the property of the installation commander and by God if you're wearing something unauthorized you will be Chiefed at your earliest convenience. SOF ground ninjas included.

[Pancake]

SocialD, on 19 October 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:

How long does it take to grow a beard like that?

Edited by Pancake, 20 October 2011 - 12:34 AM.

[LL Windshear]

Pancake, on 20 October 2011 - 12:31 AM, said:

How long does it take to grow a beard like that?

I imagine he would reply "That's classified. GFY".

[Chuck17]

SocialD, on 19 October 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:

This beard brought to you by "Great Beards of the War Between the States"....

Chuck

[SuperWSO]

Pancake, on 20 October 2011 - 12:31 AM, said:

How long does it take to grow a beard like that?

When you have that much testosterone, he probably shaved at breakfast.

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

Looks like the AF is asking for some people to return to active duty. Crazy!

http://www.minot.af....sp?id=123314216

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8/15/2012 - OFFUTT AIR FORCE BASE, Neb. -- The U. S. Air Force is currently accepting applications from prior service military members to enter active duty. Military members who separated from the Air Force, Army, Navy, or Marines with an honorable discharge may be eligible to re-enter active duty into their previous career field, or retrain into various other career fields. Current and former Guard and Reserve members in all services may also be eligible for an active duty Air Force position. Special Operations opportunities are also available to those who qualify. All assignments will be direct duty assignments, except for those who retrain or enter Special Operations training.

To qualify for an active duty position, every individual must meet various qualifying standards. Qualifying factors include re-enlistment code, length of separation, credit report, rank, and career field eligibility. If an individual is currently in the National Guard or Reserves, a conditional release from the commanding officer will be required.
Interested individuals should contact their local active duty Air Force recruiter to start the qualification process. For assistance in finding a local recruiter, visit the "Find a Recruiter" feature on AIRFORCE.COM or call 1-800-423-USAF.

[Snooter]

AlphaMikeFoxtrot, on 15 August 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

Looks like the AF is asking for some people to return to active duty. Crazy!

http://www.minot.af....sp?id=123314216

See the force shaping vsp thread...