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Which airframe?

What Crew Position?

What base?

Aaaaaaand Go.

[FlyingBull]

This might be pretty barren for a while. I don't know where we stand in Randolf, but in Pcola we don't have any assignments from the first class of the new CSO program until March or April of 2011.

With that said it will be extremely interesting to see what the drops are like for that first class, especially for those of us about to start training. Just three weeks left....assuming I don't get pushed back again.

Edited by FlyingBull, 26 August 2010 - 09:15 PM.

[discus]

FlyingBull, on 26 August 2010 - 09:14 PM, said:

This might be pretty barren for a while. I don't know where we stand in Randolph, but in Pcola we don't have any assignments from the first class of the new CSO program until March or April of 2011.

With that said it will be extremely interesting to see what the drops are like for that first class, especially for those of us about to start training. Just three weeks left....assuming I don't get pushed back again.

Noted... Just wanted to throw it out there for when they DO come around. Tell your classmates about Baseops!

[skinny]

NAS Pensacola CSO Class 11-01 (First Class)

B-1B - Dyess
B-1B - Dyess
B-1B - Dyess
B-1B - Dyess
F-15E - Seymour
C-130 - Cheyenne (ANG)
KC-135 - McConnell
EC-130 - DM
AC-130H EWO - Cannon
AC-130U Nav - Hurlburt

[Disco_Nav963]

Holy thread bump, Batman! And what a drop. For all the bugs, I wish they had had this program when I commissioned. One question-- Is the EC-130 drop for a Nav or EWO? Or is the FTU making that decision?

Side note: I'm starting B-52 DSNIQ on 1 April (crossflowing from another jet, graduated from the old Randolph syllabus in '07) and the rest of my class is apparently made up of Strike Nav grads. Apparently they ended the EWO Bridge course a while back, so the B-1 community was getting zero new accessions and everyone else was split 45% F-15E/45% BUFFs/10% other stuff. Looks like the B-1 piper is starting to get paid with this drop (of course, I understand B-1/F-15E students have a long wait time before they start the FTU).

Edited by Disco_Nav963, 25 March 2011 - 12:15 AM.

[OregonHerc]

The EC-130 is a nav

[discus]

Holy cow!! What an awesome drop! Good 'on ya, first class from Pensacola!

[08Dawg]

Well, guess that dispells the rumor that the Buff was getting a good chunk of the first drops out of PCola. Pretty good drop, though.

[FlyingBull]

08Dawg, on 27 March 2011 - 03:32 PM, said:

Well, guess that dispells the rumor that the Buff was getting a good chunk of the first drops out of PCola. Pretty good drop, though.

The rumint still says that there are lots of Buffs for the remaining FY11 classes. We're told B-1's took priority in the first class due to the FTU timing and that each time the FTU cycles another four will drop. Well thats the rumor anyway...

Edited by FlyingBull, 27 March 2011 - 07:46 PM.

[nsplayr]

There's another asset that is still pretty undermanned that I'm surprised didn't get any of the new studs. Their loss, greatest job out there for a CSO if ya ask me...

Great drop though, congrats to all.

Edited by nsplayr, 28 March 2011 - 07:10 PM.

[OregonHerc]

We've been hearing "that asset" is looking more towards experienced guys to crossflow into the community. Any truth to this?

[FlyingBull]

Too much shouldn't be read into the first class' drops. There were only 8 students in it compared to the 'normal' 24 to 27 that will be in following classes.

[B1 WSO v2.0]

The Bone was also shorted from the old Pensacola program due to Randolph's EWO following on training shutting down (6 slots were never filled and Buff received the students).

The asset is looking for mostly brand new CSOs nowadays. We were told months ago that our class could be half asset, half slick C-130s, I'm glad that wasn't the case.

[magnetfreezer]

B-1 CSO 1101, on 29 March 2011 - 05:25 PM, said:

The Bone was also shorted from the old Pensacola program due to Randolph's EWO following on training shutting down (6 slots were never filled and Buff received the students).

The asset is looking for mostly brand new CSOs nowadays. We were told months ago that our class could be half asset, half slick C-130s, I'm glad that wasn't the case.

Congrats. You'll be a WSO. Don't pork it.

[Disco_Nav963]

Apparently the guys on "the asset" are now WSOs too -- so says slide 14 from last week's CSO Conference. Is someone acknowledging that while the program might be called CSO, it's still weird to call someone a CSO?

[08Dawg]

Disco_Nav963, on 30 March 2011 - 08:35 AM, said:

Is someone acknowledging that while the program might be called CSO, it's still weird to call someone a CSO?

Yes

[Dupe]

Disco_Nav963, on 30 March 2011 - 08:35 AM, said:

Apparently the guys on "the asset" are now WSOs too -- so says slide 14 from last week's CSO Conference. Is someone acknowledging that while the program might be called CSO, it's still weird to call someone a CSO?

There's a CSO Conference? I didn't know there was such a thing.

[nsplayr]

Disco_Nav963, on 30 March 2011 - 08:35 AM, said:

Apparently the guys on "the asset" are now WSOs too -- so says slide 14 from last week's CSO Conference. Is someone acknowledging that while the program might be called CSO, it's still weird to call someone a CSO?

That is not correct. If you come to where I work you will be called a CSO. As far as I know we're one of 2 platforms that calls their 12XX folks CSOs, so in the grand scheme of things it's weird but in my little bubble it's normal.

As far as new vs. experienced, as far as I know we'll gladly take both and our training pipeline has turned out good products from both green 2Lts and silverback Lt Cols. Just don't suck or be fat.

[B1 WSO v2.0]

magnetfreezer, on 29 March 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:

Congrats. You'll be a WSO. Don't pork it.

I've been receiving that advice a lot lately.

Dupe, on 30 March 2011 - 10:13 PM, said:

There's a CSO Conference? I didn't know there was such a thing.

Yeah, most of the CSO FTUs sent CCs or DOs to Pensacola last week to discuss how to use the new "CSO".

nsplayr, on 31 March 2011 - 12:08 AM, said:

That is not correct. If you come to where I work you will be called a CSO. As far as I know we're one of 2 platforms that calls their 12XX folks CSOs, so in the grand scheme of things it's weird but in my little bubble it's normal.

^agree
I've spent my whole career in Pensacola so far, and the term CSO is completely normal to me. In fact, WSO/EWO/Nav sounds odd. I expect to start using the term WSO in the few months, but behind me are 400 new officers a year, with "CSO" ingrained into our brains.